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would be in our top 5 this year easily.

Synbad wrote:

would be in our top 5 this year easily.

For sure yes, but this proves how inconsistent we are as a team.

The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

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The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him.

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The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him.

TheGame wrote:

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The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him.

He's the Captain of our club.

If he's playing injured, playing substandard and hindering the development of a player like Kennedy, Russell or O'Hailpin then he needs to do the right thing by the club and his teammates and stand out of the team for however long it takes to get his body right.

Ponkstar wrote:

TheGame wrote:

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The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him.

Had the same argument with just about everyone here last year about Fev but the fact is Fev was just as useless as Kouta is at the moment and the club gets nothing out of playing them.

Ponkstar wrote:

TheGame wrote:

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The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him.

Had the same argument with just about everyone here last year about Fev but the fact is Fev was just as useless as Kouta is at the moment and the club gets nothing out of playing them.

Author:	Blues2005 [ Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:07 pm ]
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In my opinion Heath Scotland has been in our top 3 players this season but for some reason does not seem to get the credit he deserves. He is averaging about 26 possessions a game playing mainly across half-back and is setting up a lot of play for us. His disposal is usually very good but the thing I like about him most is that unlike many of our players, he is very strong in the body and unlike his teammates has an ability to ward off or shrug would-be tacklers. Would surely be up there in our B+F. Personally I have always rated him and felt that people were very harsh on him but I think most would admit that his first half of the year has been pretty good.

Author:	Jarusa [ Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:10 pm ]
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He took a very big hit today and got up straight away and dished off the handball. I rate that very highly. For those of you who keep a closer eye on these things. He has been criticised for being 'loose' on his opponents this year. How have his opponents gone this year? Has he been a positive to the team in terms of his own disposal and his direct opponents?

Author:	verbs [ Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:14 pm ]
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Scotland has been excellent this year, his best year to date, and it's only half way through. He's one cool dude.

Author:	Ponkstar [ Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:55 pm ]
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Scotland's big fault is inconsistency. He will often have blinder and back it up with a so-so performance. He picks up a lot of stats but so do his opponents. It's tough, because he's meant to find space and damage the opposition, but too often our turnover rate leaves him caught out. I will say this - whenever we play well Scotland is usually right up there in our best.

Author:	Effes [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:11 am ]
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Hasn't had a bad game for a while http://www.finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=811 He got my 5 votes today

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Author:	Wangers [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:11 am ]
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Thought he was our best player today with his midfield drive, but also thought he was our best last week against Port, as well, for the same reasons. Keep it up Heath.

Author:	BlueWorld [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:17 am ]
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Currently #1 in the AFL for kicks & #3 for disposals (with one game to play in the round).

Author:	magic [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:09 am ]
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Stats are very misleading, Scotland has had some outstanding games this year and had some shockers but in both cases still racking up the possessions. The game against Collingwood where i think he had 30 possessions plus and kicked the ball to Collingwood players half the time. But he has been the main man in both our victories this season and yesterday was brilliant.

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:13 am ]
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would be in our top 5 this year easily.

Author:	TheGame [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:25 am ]
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He has been fantastic when he has been playing in the middle.

Author:	magic [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:25 am ]
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Synbad wrote: would be in our top 5 this year easily. For sure yes, but this proves how inconsistent we are as a team.

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:29 am ]
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italian_styles wrote: Synbad wrote: would be in our top 5 this year easily. For sure yes, but this proves how inconsistent we are as a team. Yes it does.. he isnt McLeod... but he finds the ball.. he plays with some vigour and he attempts to be creative. Creativity is in short supply our way... Scotland is doing pretty well ... he needs more around him. The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta.

Author:	TheGame [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:33 am ]
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Quote: The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta. Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him.

Author:	Ponkstar [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:41 am ]
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TheGame wrote: Quote: The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta. Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him. He's the Captain of our club. If he's playing injured, playing substandard and hindering the development of a player like Kennedy, Russell or O'Hailpin then he needs to do the right thing by the club and his teammates and stand out of the team for however long it takes to get his body right.

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:42 am ]
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When looking at his stats along with his overall performances I'd say he's personally having a very good year, but more importantly, there's still alot of improvement ahead to look forward to over the next 4 years. As the team improves he will too. That said, he could become a Carlton player to cherish in your heart and in your memories. Imagine what would have been this year, if he had someone to pass to in the next line of attack and wasn't forced to run in circles in an attempt to retain the ball and not give it away. He's smart, matured as a footballer, has experienced the highs and lows and is a strong bodied footballer, and he's only in his mid 20's. There's alot to like about Scotland, and if you focus on blaming him for our team's losses because you expect more from an experienced player, you're forgetting that he's playing for a weak team, in a team game, and you're missing his value and good efforts, week in week out. Great game against the eagles. Oh what could have been.

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Author:	Synbad [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:43 am ]
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TheGame wrote: Quote: The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta. Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him. Voss plays injured... Buckley has played injured.. Harvey plays injured every week... Ricciuto plays injured... Kouta is too comfortable.

Author:	uncle john [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:47 am ]
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Heath has been great this year. His running creates opportunities and options to RETAIN possession of the footy. I think his defensive side is slowly on the improve. Great game yesterday Scotty!!.

Author:	TheGame [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:51 am ]
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Ponkstar wrote: TheGame wrote: Quote: The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta. Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him. He's the Captain of our club. If he's playing injured, playing substandard and hindering the development of a player like Kennedy, Russell or O'Hailpin then he needs to do the right thing by the club and his teammates and stand out of the team for however long it takes to get his body right. Had the same argument with just about everyone here last year about Fev but the fact is Fev was just as useless as Kouta is at the moment and the club gets nothing out of playing them.

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:53 am ]
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TheGame wrote: Ponkstar wrote: TheGame wrote: Quote: The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta. Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him. He's the Captain of our club. If he's playing injured, playing substandard and hindering the development of a player like Kennedy, Russell or O'Hailpin then he needs to do the right thing by the club and his teammates and stand out of the team for however long it takes to get his body right. Had the same argument with just about everyone here last year about Fev but the fact is Fev was just as useless as Kouta is at the moment and the club gets nothing out of playing them. Just a couple of things.... Firstly Fev kicked 50 goals last year being useless... how many people kicked more goals than a useless Fev last year??? And exactly what is Koutas injury that would stop him from showing leadership passion?? As a matter of fact what is his injury?? can you enlighten me?

Author:	Ponkstar [ Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:54 am ]
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TheGame wrote: Ponkstar wrote: TheGame wrote: Quote: The guy thats letting the whole thing down in my opinion is Kouta. Not his fault he's injured, not his fault the club plays injured players. Like Fev last year the club are killing him. He's the Captain of our club. If he's playing injured, playing substandard and hindering the development of a player like Kennedy, Russell or O'Hailpin then he needs to do the right thing by the club and his teammates and stand out of the team for however long it takes to get his body right. Had the same argument with just about everyone here last year about Fev but the fact is Fev was just as useless as Kouta is at the moment and the club gets nothing out of playing them. FWIW The Game I think you are dead right about Fev. There is no benefit whatsoever in playing injured players. It's not like there is a question of percentage keeping us out of the finals or anything.