interesting atricle - lets just pray none of those listed with the other clubs find their way onto our list
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| Author: | BlueWorld [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:22 am ] |
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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 62,00.html Quote: CARLTON
Jordan Bannister: Former Bomber who can't find a role in this team as a tagger or onballer. Callum Chambers: Only 12 games in two years at Carlton. Would need an amazing form turnaround to keep his spot. Luke Livingston: In his sixth year he has snagged five games for 37 possessions. It's not enough for the tall defender. Troy Longmuir: Out for two months with a shoulder injury, but hasn't made an impact before then. Ian Prendergast: Carlton's growing ruck stocks have hurt him. Has played the past three and needs to continue on. Trent Sporn: Only 46 games in his six years at Carlton. Might be time up despite his talent. |
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| Author: | london blue [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:25 am ] |
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interesting atricle - lets just pray none of those listed with the other clubs find their way onto our list
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| Author: | keogh [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:53 am ] |
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I would keep Bannister. |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:52 am ] |
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Quote: In contrast, Carlton and Kangaroos ruckman Mark Porter walked into Dean Laidley's office in late-2004 pondering a new contract and walked out a former AFL footballer. Quote: ``Dean was good. He handled it well, but there's not much you can say. He just explained what was happening with the club and what they saw in the future with the young kids.''
Young kids like Jonathan Hay and Jade Rawlings 
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| Author: | mjonc [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:12 am ] |
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keogh wrote: I would keep Bannister.
In the super draft I'd rather draft a kid in his place. Has another 10 weeks to prove otherwise to me. |
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| Author: | Brock Landers [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:34 am ] |
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hope we have learnt our lesson re: recycled players. THe draft is the only place we should be looking at in the immediate future |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:57 am ] |
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Bring in more spare parts players from other clubs and have those supported by players who cant get a game at other clubs.... Dont give blokes like Bryan , Livo, Sporn a game..... |
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| Author: | Rhys26 [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:14 am ] |
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Synbad wrote: Bring in more spare parts players from other clubs and have those supported by players who cant get a game at other clubs....
Dont give blokes like Bryan , Livo, Sporn a game..... Synbad, Agree 100% about the hacks from other clubs. But Bryan - Talented but doesn't work hard enough, can't afford to reward blokes who don't put the effort in. Livo - Quality person but seriously he is not up to AFL standard unfortunately Sporn - has been really hard done by. Has been made to play too defensive by our current super coach and Brittain . |
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| Author: | Barnesy [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:36 am ] |
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Cut losses, can't go much lower. Make as many spots available as possible. Go to the draft, PSD, and even elevate a rookie if warranted. Hit the National Draft and allow these 6 or 7 kids too develop together, and the team together over the next few years. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:10 am ] |
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Rhys26 wrote: Synbad wrote: Bring in more spare parts players from other clubs and have those supported by players who cant get a game at other clubs.... Dont give blokes like Bryan , Livo, Sporn a game..... Synbad, Agree 100% about the hacks from other clubs. But Bryan - Talented but doesn't work hard enough, can't afford to reward blokes who don't put the effort in. Livo - Quality person but seriously he is not up to AFL standard unfortunately Sporn - has been really hard done by. Has been made to play too defensive by our current super coach and Brittain . i think Sporn would be beautifully suited to a Crows type game... Livo isnt a gun but gives us defensive structure. He doesnt get smashed as often as people think... Not playing him costs us.Should remain on the list as we dont have a FB anyway. Bryan should be just played.... i really dont understand this thing they seem to have that everyone should be a coal miner. |
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| Author: | Wolfe [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 am ] |
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There are prob a few others playing for there career that could be added to that list CARLTON Jordan Bannister: I still think Banno can contribute would rather see him take on Teagues role but he offers better height and mobility and can do other roles Callum Chambers: Dunno he should have been something had ability and speed but seems to be another david clarke cant see him post 2006 Luke Livingston: Another sad story being number 4 pick also had injuries and back issues and seems to too easily exploited think we cut our losses Troy Longmuir: Cant see him in AFL after this season - suffers from injuries and hasnt impacted when promoted to AFL Ian Prendergast: Still think he can add something and maybe give him a Kouta role of a Mobile Player but also has had many chances and also struggled with injury Trent Sporn: Dont think he can add anything to the Blues if he can be traded to aS.A Club best option for us Add to the list Davies: No idea with Davies as been injured not sure where he is at Teague: Still has courage but believe to slow for AFL and be lucky to be still on the list with the new draft. Deluca: Still not sureof him but seems to be someone the MC gives lots of oppertunity to Wiggins: maye have done enough to hold his place Chris Bryan: I agree with some would like to see him given some oppertunities at senior level so as to make a proper assessment would have put him in place of Deluca to see how goes Magrath: Another who is servicable but may come under pressure from emerging kids. Seen Magrath play some good games and then play some really poor games guess will be looked at in the remaining weeks Kouta: Believe he should retire and maybe play his last game in round 22 or maybe play out the year but rather see a kid take his place or a player we are closely looking at to see if we retain. |
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| Author: | BlueWorld [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:00 pm ] |
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Quote: i think Sporn would be beautifully suited to a Crows type game...
Didn't we offer him to them last year and they said no? |
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| Author: | Wangers [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:05 pm ] |
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Synbad wrote: Rhys26 wrote: Synbad wrote: Bring in more spare parts players from other clubs and have those supported by players who cant get a game at other clubs.... Dont give blokes like Bryan , Livo, Sporn a game..... Synbad, Agree 100% about the hacks from other clubs. But Bryan - Talented but doesn't work hard enough, can't afford to reward blokes who don't put the effort in. Livo - Quality person but seriously he is not up to AFL standard unfortunately Sporn - has been really hard done by. Has been made to play too defensive by our current super coach and Brittain . i think Sporn would be beautifully suited to a Crows type game... Livo isnt a gun but gives us defensive structure. He doesnt get smashed as often as people think... Not playing him costs us.Should remain on the list as we dont have a FB anyway. Bryan should be just played.... i really dont understand this thing they seem to have that everyone should be a coal miner. Agree mostly with you, Synbad. Sporn would be a good fit at Adelaide, hence their interest in him at last trade period. Bryan is a lazy footballer. Trains with no intensity, shows little intensity on the field, and his diet off the field is ordinary as I witnessed a few weeks ago. Doesn't deserve an opportunity until he smartens up. |
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| Author: | malbi [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:28 am ] |
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For me at this stage of the season: OUT: Davies, Longmuir, Chambers, Kouta (retired) MUST SHOW SOMETHING OR ELSE GO: Sporn, Livingston, Teague, Bryan, Prendergast, DeLuca, Saddington RETAIN: Bannister, McGrath, Wiggins HOW LONG WILL THE EXPERIMENT LAST?: S. o'hAilpin SAFE: All others |
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| Author: | RoK [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:36 am ] |
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Synbad wrote: Rhys26 wrote: Synbad wrote: Bring in more spare parts players from other clubs and have those supported by players who cant get a game at other clubs.... Dont give blokes like Bryan , Livo, Sporn a game..... Synbad, Agree 100% about the hacks from other clubs. But Bryan - Talented but doesn't work hard enough, can't afford to reward blokes who don't put the effort in. Livo - Quality person but seriously he is not up to AFL standard unfortunately Sporn - has been really hard done by. Has been made to play too defensive by our current super coach and Brittain . i think Sporn would be beautifully suited to a Crows type game... Livo isnt a gun but gives us defensive structure. He doesnt get smashed as often as people think... Not playing him costs us.Should remain on the list as we dont have a FB anyway. Bryan should be just played.... i really dont understand this thing they seem to have that everyone should be a coal miner. you have to earn a game bryan has not. |
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| Author: | ballistic blues [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:47 am ] |
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keogh wrote: I would keep Bannister.
CRICKEY! |
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| Author: | The Duke [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:33 am ] |
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Maximum of seven players to go, I reckon. they'll be; Kouta Longmuir Teague Prenda Sporn Chambers Bryan Maybe O'Hailpin 
New; Pick 2, 18, 35, 51, 67 Rookie, Rookie Livo on another 1 year deal, Deluca as a spare / spare ruck and Davies just because he costs nothing but can give something. |
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| Author: | lawrence_angwin [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:52 am ] |
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I agree re: O'Hailpin.....everyone talks about the small lists we have nowadays and how list management in crucial, but I have to wonder how long you persist with a bloke who is not yet a senior footballer. Is it true he is contracted for next year? If so I think that is a poor move from the club, as an unproven player such as Santy should be considered on a year by year basis. I hope he proves me wrong and plays some senior footy before the end of the year, because if not it really shows Carlton's policy of re-signing players is questionable (eg. Prendergast and Bannister this year, though perhaps Banno has shown enough to be retained) |
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| Author: | blueblood95 [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:14 pm ] |
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We must axe: DeLuca Sporn Chambers Longmuir Prendergast We probably should axe (but probably won't): Saddington O'hAilpin Teague Livingston We won't axe but most clubs would: McGrath Wiggins French Bannsiter Davies We should offer 3 year contracts to (if they are'nt already): Bentick Betts Blackwell Bower Carazzo Edwards Fevola Fisher Kennedy Murphy Russell Walker Waite We have paleyrs who need to play every week and arent such as: Bryan Russell And an older group that are servicable such as: Houlihan Thornton Lappin Stevens Whitnall McLaren All in all if we did axe 8 or 9 players we would benefit greatly from the super draft. The question is does the coaching staff have the balls to unload 8 or 9 players now for a longer term gain? I dont think they do. |
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| Author: | true_blue3 [ Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:39 pm ] |
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blueblood95 wrote: The question is does the coaching staff have the balls to unload 8 or 9 players now for a longer term gain? I dont think they do. i think they should unload 8 or 9 players but they don't have the balls to because we wont win too many games in the next 2 years (which is irrellevelant compared to the reward we'll get for it) because if that happens they'll lose their jobs |
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