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Player memories... Jon Dorotich
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Author:  molsey [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Player memories... Jon Dorotich

His bio needs to be done in the Blueseum. What can you tell me?

Author:  womack [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:26 am ]
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what did people mean by yelling out "sticky fingers" to him - it always confused me. Cos he was a good mark perhaps?

Author:  Deano Supremo [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:37 am ]
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My endearing memory will be of him scuffing an easy shot for goal at Waverley circs 91 or 92 - the opposition rebounded and scored a goal thus giving them victory. Could have been Richmond I think.

Also remember him and Rhys flying the flag against Plugger after he layed out Matty Hogg after the siren in front of the social club at PP in '92.

Author:  blueroyal [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:52 am ]
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I think it was Dorotich who from a kick in, changed his mind mid way through, fell on the ground, got tackled and then just threw the ball for a rushed behind like he was a gridiron player.

It would have been funny if it had of happened to a non-Carlton player.

Dorotich now calls WAFL games for the ABC and occasionally assaults cyclists.

Author:  Dukes [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:00 am ]
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Deano Supremo wrote:
Also remember him and Rhys flying the flag against Plugger after he layed out Matty Hogg after the siren in front of the social club at PP in '92.


I still think that game in 92 was his finest moment as a Carlton player. Lockett had kicked 6 goals on a young Michael Sexton to half-time and Parkin moved Dorotich to full back at the main break. He held Lockett goal-less in the second half as Luke O'Sullivan played a blinder, Sticks kicked the memorable handball to himself - checkside goal from the boundary line and Carlton prevailed by a kick in front of a packed PP crowd.

Author:  Electric Blue [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:00 am ]
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Image

Author:  Deano Supremo [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:04 am ]
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Dukes wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Also remember him and Rhys flying the flag against Plugger after he layed out Matty Hogg after the siren in front of the social club at PP in '92.


I still think that game in 92 was his finest moment as a Carlton player. Lockett had kicked 6 goals on a young Michael Sexton to half-time and Parkin moved Dorotich to full back at the main break. He held Lockett goal-less in the second half as Luke O'Sullivan played a blinder, Sticks kicked the memorable handball to himself - checkside goal from the boundary line and Carlton prevailed by a kick in front of a packed PP crowd.


Yeah, it was a cracking game, I spent most of it laughing at Aldo Di Petta.

There were some ripper games at PP that year - the Footcray game was a gem too.

Author:  kingkerna [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:06 am ]
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very solid defender - in the 1987 Grand Final suprisingly started on the forward line which was his original position in WA. Yes it was a game against Richmond when he missed an important kick for goal - this was when Sticks, Bradley, Diesel and Hanna all had a milestone game on the same day. Think you would find it was in 1992?
Used to match up on Dermie a fair bit. Very good one grab mark, not a great kick though

Author:  bluehammer [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:28 am ]
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Deano Supremo wrote:
My endearing memory will be of him scuffing an easy shot for goal at Waverley circs 91 or 92 - the opposition rebounded and scored a goal thus giving them victory. Could have been Richmond I think.


I reckon we lost that game by 3 points and it was definitely richmond.

Author:  Rhys26 [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:01 pm ]
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bluehammer wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
My endearing memory will be of him scuffing an easy shot for goal at Waverley circs 91 or 92 - the opposition rebounded and scored a goal thus giving them victory. Could have been Richmond I think.


I reckon we lost that game by 3 points and it was definitely richmond.


Yeah Wayne Campbell kicked the goal to win them the game. Doro missed from the goal square

Author:  molsey [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:06 pm ]
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Seems like this one?

http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index. ... 15%2C+1992

So this was dorra's fault?

Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:40 pm ]
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http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index. ... 24%2C+1991

Another Richmond game. Dora took 15 marks at CHB when taking 15 marks meant something.

This was David Cloke's last game, he kicked 8 goals on Peter Dean :(

Author:  kingkerna [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:48 pm ]
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Molsey the game where he missed the goal was also Greg Williams 150th (I think) - was definately a milestone for him as well as I remember the 4 faces on the banner. Might want to edit that if you can work out how many games it was

Author:  Deano Supremo [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:02 pm ]
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molsey wrote:
Seems like this one?

http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-index. ... 15%2C+1992

So this was dorra's fault?


Yeah, I reckon that's the one.

Author:  Navy Blue Horse [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:26 pm ]
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blueroyal wrote:
I think it was Dorotich who from a kick in, changed his mind mid way through, fell on the ground, got tackled and then just threw the ball for a rushed behind like he was a gridiron player.

It would have been funny if it had of happened to a non-Carlton player.

Dorotich now calls WAFL games for the ABC and occasionally assaults cyclists.



The kick-in debacle was against St Kilda at Waverley. Kicking in from he behind, Dorra actually kicked the ground instead of the ball, the ball trickled towards Spider Everitt, so Dorra pounced on the ball and threw it straight back through the goals, and of course, conceded a free kick. If my memory sevres me well, we came from behind on that day, with Tommy Alvin kicking 4 or 5 goals and walking off the ground in tears as his Dad had died the night before. Ah, the glory days.

Author:  dongatwitch [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:28 pm ]
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One of my alltime favs :-D 8) :P

Author:  AIRCAV [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:34 pm ]
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Dont let the kick in marr the fact he was a damn good defender and had some ripper contests with Dermie in the late 80's. Held up CHB for us against some very capable CHF's and was able to go up forward as and when needed. Didn't mind some biffo either.

Author:  Deano Supremo [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:53 pm ]
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AIRCAV wrote:
Dont let the kick in marr the fact he was a damn good defender and had some ripper contests with Dermie in the late 80's. Held up CHB for us against some very capable CHF's and was able to go up forward as and when needed. Didn't mind some biffo either.


Yeah, he was good value. A bit of a gumby, but served us well.

Author:  moshe25 [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:54 pm ]
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I think I was at his first game at Waverley (Round 1, 1986), which was probably the greatest game in history for champions' debuts. Check this out:

Kernahan. Bradley, Motley, Dora, Mil Hanna (for us) and Platten (for the Dawks). Hanna got injured and missed the rest of the season.

Dora had a running battle with Dermie, beating him a few times, and was expected to line up on him in the 87 GF. In a master stroke surprise, Walls put Rhys-Jones on Dermie (rest is history) and had Dora and Kenny Hunter line up in the forward line. If those two could've kicked straight it would've been all over at Quarter Time.

(Side note: That was probably the last good thing Walls ever did - in his life.... :twisted: )

Dora also did some public work with early draft picks, most notably Matty Bate..... :twisted:

Author:  blueroyal [ Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:55 pm ]
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I think he may have also been the innovator of standing on the mark as an opposition player walks back to take a shot on goal and as their back is turned walking back a few paces....I remember him doing it a couple of times around 91-92 with an unsuspecting opposition player running in to take a shot only to find Dorotich running straight at them.

My vivid memory of him doing it was after walking back a few paces putting his arms up and standing the mark with a straight face before descending on the proper mark.

I think it worked about 3-4 times before Peter McKenna cottoned onto it in the commentary position and the game was up.

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