They have to promote a rookie now even 2 in Smith and Jackson. If i ever see Sporn, Chambers, Longmuir etc play again I'll have to take a box of tissues with me to the game, and for those who i sit with usually that might be quite embarrassing
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| Author: | spf [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:52 am ] |
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http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19743490-23211,00.html What we all probably knew anyway. |
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| Author: | thegezman [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:59 am ] |
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PROMOTE A ROOKIE! |
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| Author: | mjonc [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:04 am ] |
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They have to promote a rookie now even 2 in Smith and Jackson. If i ever see Sporn, Chambers, Longmuir etc play again I'll have to take a box of tissues with me to the game, and for those who i sit with usually that might be quite embarrassing
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:26 am ] |
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I asked this elsewhere - forgot where and didn't see if it was answered - How much does it cost to promote a rookie? |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:40 am ] |
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mjonc wrote: They have to promote a rookie now even 2 in Smith and Jackson. If i ever see Sporn, Chambers, Longmuir etc play again I'll have to take a box of tissues with me to the game, and for those who i sit with usually that might be quite embarrassing
I would have thought a bucket more appropriate.  
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:45 am ] |
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: I asked this elsewhere - forgot where and didn't see if it was answered - How much does it cost to promote a rookie?
We'd need to know the pay scales of a rookie vs 1st year player + matchpayments. Anyone? |
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| Author: | Speedy [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:45 am ] |
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: I asked this elsewhere - forgot where and didn't see if it was answered - How much does it cost to promote a rookie?
$20,000 I think. That's why we have not seen any promoted! |
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| Author: | Jarusa [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:48 am ] |
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From the CBA: 4.2 Where a Rookie is temporarily promoted to the Primary List of an AFL Club to replace a Long Term Injury List Player, he shall be paid until he is transferred back to the Rookie List or until the last Match played by his Club in the AFL Season, whichever occurs first (in lieu of his Rookie Base Payment), a base payment on a monthly pro-rata basis and a Senior Match Payment per Senior Match of the amount set out in the table below: Year Base Payment Senior Match Payment 2004 $38,100 $2,150 2005 $39,300 $2,200 2006 $39,300 $2,200 Normally a rookie is paid as follows: 4.1 An AFL Club shall pay each Rookie on its Rookie List in 2004, 2005 and 2006 a minimum base payment and minimum Senior Match payment per Senior Match of the amount set out in the table below: Year Base Payment Senior Match Payment 2004 $25,000 $0 2005 $25,750 $0 2006 $25,750 $0 |
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| Author: | Rhys26 [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:57 am ] |
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Gee Pagan drafted in a real diamond with Saddo....and of course Chambers and Longmuir. |
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| Author: | blueblood95 [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:01 am ] |
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You can't teach an old, tired, useless dog new tricks. Pagan has tried to with: Saddington Morell Clark Kenna McKernan Harford and I am sure there are more. Pagan has lost the plot. |
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| Author: | Barnesy [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:10 am ] |
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A better recycled option would have been Woewodin. Least he would have offered something. Regardless of whether Saddo is a nice guy or not, the club need too start giving answers, for Pagan too not be accountable for this and ignore the members is rediculous. |
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| Author: | thegezman [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:33 am ] |
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cant see how getting woewoden would have helped. whould have just robbed game time off bentick, blackwell murphy etc. saddo was bought in to hopefully give us a chop out down back (where we are very thin) while the likes of bower, hartlett etc develop. unfortunatley his body hasn't held up. |
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| Author: | Harmes37 [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:24 pm ] |
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Let's hope this isn't another "Carlton gave away pick 19(?) for Davenport & the bloke picked up was Barry Hall" situation. Who'd the Swans get with pick 53? |
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| Author: | molsey [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:29 pm ] |
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blueblood95 wrote: You can't teach an old, tired, useless dog new tricks.
Pagan has tried to with: Saddington Morell Clark Kenna McKernan Harford and I am sure there are more. Pagan has lost the plot. I think its very very important to differentiate between 2 types of retreads: 1. Those where we had our hands tied behind our back 2. Optional trades. Group 1 are those that we had to take in 2003 to clear some expensive contracts (and apparent attitudes / problems) from the list. Clarke for Beaumont, Allan gone, Morrell & Teague for Mckernan etc. We really were hamstrung back then. 2. Longmuir, Chambers clear choices we had and failed decisions. bag away! |
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| Author: | DownUnderChick [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:07 pm ] |
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See ya Jase. We hardly knew ya. |
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| Author: | blueblood95 [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:38 pm ] |
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molsey wrote: blueblood95 wrote: You can't teach an old, tired, useless dog new tricks. Pagan has tried to with: Saddington Morell Clark Kenna McKernan Harford and I am sure there are more. Pagan has lost the plot. I think its very very important to differentiate between 2 types of retreads: 1. Those where we had our hands tied behind our back 2. Optional trades. Group 1 are those that we had to take in 2003 to clear some expensive contracts (and apparent attitudes / problems) from the list. Clarke for Beaumont, Allan gone, Morrell & Teague for Mckernan etc. We really were hamstrung back then. 2. Longmuir, Chambers clear choices we had and failed decisions. bag away! True, but we did not have to replace those players with short term options. Pagan must have thought that the Clarke's and Morell's would be able to fill the void quickly. He was wrong and it pit us back about 3 years in the rebuilding process. Pagan has made some terrible playing list decisions. I believe that he will make more of them too. |
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| Author: | Effes [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:51 pm ] |
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IIRC the Swans picked up Matthew Laidlaw with the pick we gave them for Saddington |
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| Author: | phoenix johnson [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:06 pm ] |
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Surely Jackson has to be promoted now. |
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| Author: | Car17on [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:53 pm ] |
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blueblood95 wrote: Pagan has lost the plot.
Don't you have to have it in the first place before you can lose it? I was happy to see Saddo kick his first Blue goal against the Swans back in round [n]. I recall seeing him stuff up monumentally (called "doing a Campo" after what that played did last weekend for his new club against the Roos) but that's about the extent of it ... pity, I really held hope out, despite what my Swans-supporting colleagues said about him when we learned we swapped him for our draft pick ... Oh well .. maybe that's why Pags is persisting with the oldies coz we can't afford to promote the rookies .. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:56 pm ] |
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Im REAALLY REALLY REALLY disappointed we couldnt get our hands on Spriggs and Knoble too.... Thank Goodness.... |
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