I agree with BV
about his head
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| Author: | mizrachi [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | GET RID OF PAGAN VIA VIDEO !!! |
The majority of us agree that Pagan should go. I’m assuming this translates into the majority of Carlton members also thinking this way (this is an assumption but all the members I speak to think so). As such, I’m seriously contemplating bringing a video camera to the footy over the next couple of weeks and asking Carlton members to state their name, membership number, and if they reckon Pagan should go. If I spent some time between quarters going around the ground, plus do a bit before and after the game, I reckon I could get 100+ members agreeing. I realise this will potentially come to nothing as - Pagan is still on contract - The club can’t afford to pay him out - The club is too anal to think that he is part of our problems - Etc.. but at least I and my fellow members could feel good knowing that we have voiced our opinions (once I mail copies to the board and the coach himself) !!! WHAT DO YOU THINK ??? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON FILM ? |
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:03 pm ] |
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Not me. |
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| Author: | phoenix johnson [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:04 pm ] |
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Not the right way to do it. |
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| Author: | strangeblue [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:11 pm ] |
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No. As you've acknowledged, this is going to be a futile exercise, so the only thing you're gonna achieve is some more bad press for the club, which is just what it's sponsors and supporters need right now... |
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:22 pm ] |
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I have a better head for radio. |
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| Author: | blueboy8 [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:27 pm ] |
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I wouldnt sign. I must not be in the majority of Carlton Members. Just becuase there a few vocal people on a forum dont get that mistaken for the majority of Carlton members. |
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| Author: | dannyboy [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:37 pm ] |
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I agree with BV about his head
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| Author: | fullmont101 [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:59 pm ] |
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Nah, I am already making Video telling him that every single Carlton fan is right behind him. |
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| Author: | GWS [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:05 pm ] |
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This is ticking over nicely mizrachi... 
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| Author: | camel [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:27 pm ] |
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Cammo … is that you?!
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| Author: | Barnesy [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:51 pm ] |
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There maybe something better you can do with that camera 
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| Author: | mizrachi [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:16 pm ] |
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I don't get it !!!! Everyone bags Pagan, but when push comes to shove and we can potentially make a difference, no one wants to put their hand up. I understand that this would potentially be bad publicity for the club but my answer to that is... short term pain, long term gain ! |
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| Author: | CK95 [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:17 pm ] |
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Then take Barnesy's advice
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| Author: | tommi [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:30 pm ] |
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Live in Frarnce..........? kindest regards tommi |
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| Author: | GWS [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:45 pm ] |
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mizrachi wrote: I don't get it !!!!
Everyone bags Pagan, but when push comes to shove and we can potentially make a difference, no one wants to put their hand up. I understand that this would potentially be bad publicity for the club but my answer to that is... short term pain, long term gain ! I'll spell it out for you - what you're doing is called a "petition". You want to start a petition to get the club to sack someone and pay them out close to $2 million. Our club is very short of money. If you are willing to put up the $2 million you may have some takers. That would be "putting your hand up". If not, your idea sucks and will only result in another pile of crap the club has to deal with. Go back to bitching and moaning like the rest of the people in here. 
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:04 pm ] |
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Its only 1.3 million I believe now
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| Author: | Heavs [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:08 pm ] |
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Cammo?? |
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| Author: | Kouta [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GET RID OF PAGAN VIA VIDEO !!! |
mizrachi wrote: The majority of us agree that Pagan should go. I’m assuming this translates into the majority of Carlton members also thinking this way (this is an assumption but all the members I speak to think so).
As such, I’m seriously contemplating bringing a video camera to the footy over the next couple of weeks and asking Carlton members to state their name, membership number, and if they reckon Pagan should go. If I spent some time between quarters going around the ground, plus do a bit before and after the game, I reckon I could get 100+ members agreeing. I realise this will potentially come to nothing as - Pagan is still on contract - The club can’t afford to pay him out - The club is too anal to think that he is part of our problems - Etc.. but at least I and my fellow members could feel good knowing that we have voiced our opinions (once I mail copies to the board and the coach himself) !!! WHAT DO YOU THINK ??? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO VOICE YOUR OPINION ON FILM ? Give me a $1000, a goat, a video camera, animal tranquilisers and bobs your uncle! 
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:28 pm ] |
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GWS wrote: Go back to bitching and moaning like the rest of the people in here.
Yeah! Hang on....... 
Sorry Mizrachi. Unlike GWS, I dont think the money is the biggest obstacle. A settlement can always be negotiated. But a video with supporters bagging the coach is not the answer. Those in charge would realise there is disenchantment amongst the supporters. (and players) Hopefully the board and administration are smart enough to make the right decision. |
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| Author: | Barnesy [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:28 pm ] |
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mizrachi wrote: I don't get it !!!!
Everyone bags Pagan, but when push comes to shove and we can potentially make a difference, no one wants to put their hand up. I understand that this would potentially be bad publicity for the club but my answer to that is... short term pain, long term gain ! There are very few people who can make an educated (factual ) assesment on where Pagan is at in terms of his coaching of the blues. A few may know players who say he is shit, there are the hardcore numbers (winning percentage), there is his recruitment record, and his development of young guys. He has certainly let himself down in terms of recruiting Mick Martyn, Ricky Mott, Jason Saddington, Callum Chambers, Troy Longmuir, and Daniel Harford. Perhaps that was his choice, perhaps he was unwisely guided too recycle players. The two shining lights in his development process has been Fevola and Blacwkell in my opinion. Of his recyled players i would say Scotland is the best. Who is to say someone would have done better? Or worse? That's subjective. His game plan could be scrutinised, but does he have the players? Lets put it this way, what would people's views be if he could be paid out no questions asked? Probably let him go. For now he needs too stay put, unless a financial backer comes through and offers an alternative. Many say he still is good. Having said that I think the club could be more insistent on him getting his mug on TV shows and selling the club and the upcoming draft a bit more. |
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