If I want Josh Kennedy to play ahead of ADL, is that tanking?
DeLuca may offer more today but the development of Josh will pay off in years to come. In reality, I'm sacrificing today for the medium to long term benefit of Carlton.

I'd rather see Jesse Smith or Ryan Jackson get a run and let Kouta or Stevo get any surgery they need now. Obviously Kouta was struggling with injury before he missed with his hand injury. Why wasnt he rested to get him right.
Stevo is affected by a leg injury at the moment.
Am I tanking if I put him in for surgery or a rest so a youngster can offer 100% compared to Stevo's 70%?
The youngster gets a taste of senior football and Stevo is ready to go next season.

I get frustrated by posters telling other Carlton people they are'nt "real supporters".
If winning is secondary to me at the moment, am I a "pro tanker".
I've stated all along that development should be our priority. I dont care if Denis doesnt win games, his role is to develop a list capable of sustainable success.

Consider Jackson for a game before Prender. Give Jesse Smith a game before Chambers.
It may cost us a game but the long term benefit is more important.
That should be Denis' job description.

If getting greater satisfaction out of the development of our kids over the occasional flukey win is tanking, that'll do me.
If Denis plays the kids and has development as his sole aim, I dont care if we win 6 games or none. he is doing his job well IMO.
However if Denis believes winning games is his primary objective and we miss a priority pick because the coach cant see past today, He should get the arse.

If that's tanking, so be it.

no that's called planning.

but

after the win (if it happens because Jackson plays a blinder, Kennedy kicks 6 and the other mob have 5 stars out)

should you enjoy the win

or is that enjoyment somehow the unmaking the the carlton football club?

I kind of addressed this in another post.

There are four types of Carlton supporters, none of them are any more important or less important than the other just to make things clear:

i. Those who are too stupid to realise how important the draft is.

ii. Those who are very insecure in themselves as a Carlton supporter and think they are a 'true' supporter if they want us to win one more game and scream for Carlton regardless of the consequences.

iii. Those who enjoy footy but don't truly care about Carlton and are willing to put their own short term jollies ahead of picking up a 10 year player or developing a youngster just so they can avoid some stick from a friend or work mate, eg. copping it coz we won the spoon.

iv. Those who have a good understanding of the AFL environment, want ULTIMATE future success not just a top 8 spot, and are willing to do anything to achieve that goal, whether it be trading star players or losing games in the short term.

There are no variations on these groups and the people that fit into groups i, ii or iii will probably be in denial.

Carlton God

Some have evolved to store for the next winter some haven't and seek instant gratification like a third world economist.
BV you're still pro-tanking unless you put the best available team out every week. That means you are not a "real" supporter. Shame on you.

The better supporters are the ones who don't try to make other supporters feel guilty for enjoying a win, nor make other supporters feel guilty for wanting the club to get the priority pick.

Marc Murphy or Dale Thomas ...... your choice.