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| Author: | 4thchicken [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:59 am ] |
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http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/real ... 90250.html title change as requested by we are = we're
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| Author: | Chitty's Finger [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:39 am ] |
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Look its great and all that... So he'll only put money in if he gets a tax deduction? I guess that's how he got rich in the first place? |
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| Author: | Headplant [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:49 am ] |
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He is under no obligation to put in any money at all. I hardly think it's appropriate to criticise him for using the most cost effective mechanism. |
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| Author: | Sniff Wilson [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:36 am ] |
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Athorn the Wonderkid wrote: Look its great and all that...
So he'll only put money in if he gets a tax deduction? I guess that's how he got rich in the first place? how much cash have you put in? |
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| Author: | Wojee [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:38 am ] |
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bnz wrote: Athorn the Wonderkid wrote: Look its great and all that... So he'll only put money in if he gets a tax deduction? I guess that's how he got rich in the first place? how much cash have you put in? As a percentage of my net worth I've put in a reasonable amount I reckon 
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| Author: | Rhys26 [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:48 am ] |
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Can he leave now?? |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:49 am ] |
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Athorn the Wonderkid wrote: Look its great and all that...
So he'll only put money in if he gets a tax deduction? I guess that's how he got rich in the first place? Just taking advantage of rules which have been in place for some time. Good on him. Thank you, Smorgon. |
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| Author: | camel [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:53 am ] |
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I reckon it's a bit rough to criticise the guy when he's putting money towards the new training facility. He'd cop it if he didn't and he cops it if he does. I'm more interested about the line concerning the four term limit on board members. Seems a bit daft to try and scrap it 5 minutes after it was introduced. Sticks might be popular, but is he any good as a board member?! |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:11 am ] |
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camelboy wrote: I'm more interested about the line concerning the four term limit on board members. Seems a bit daft to try and scrap it 5 minutes after it was introduced. Sticks might be popular, but is he any good as a board member?!
I would have to agree as the reason this rule was introduced was to prevent what happened to our club in the first place. The Yanks bought in a 2 term rule for their Presidents - specifically to stop a situation where they had an extremely popular 4 Term President in F.D. Roosevelt. I know Sticks is popular and a club legend - but do we need to amend a rule so soon after bringing it in. 
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:30 am ] |
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What's to stop Sticks stepping down from the board for a year, and being re-appointed a year later? I'd rather see directors be churned after 4 terms than potentially entrench board members, a la JE. Now, if only Smorgon can tip some of his cash into getting himself an on-air personality.....
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| Author: | phoenix johnson [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:31 am ] |
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How can you criticise the guy for putting money in to the club, when it was just last night that people were giving it to him for not doing so? And now that he is, you're still giving it to him. Man, some people are never happy. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:32 am ] |
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phoenix johnson wrote: How can you criticise the guy for putting money in to the club, when it was just last night that people were giving it to him for not doing so?
And now that he is, you're still giving it to him. Man, some people are never happy. Got that right, PJ. Sand. |
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| Author: | JohnM [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:34 am ] |
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They want him to stay on because of the lack of football nous on the board. The option, of course, is to find a suitably-credentialled candidate and endorse him to replace Kernahan. Perhaps the amendment could be 4 terms or 10 years, whichever is greatest. I wouldn't be comfortable with a return to the open-ended nature of the previous arrangement. |
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:36 am ] |
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JohnM wrote: They want him to stay on because of the lack of football nous on the board.
The option, of course, is to find a suitably-credentialled candidate and endorse him to replace Kernahan. Perhaps the amendment could be 4 terms or 10 years, whichever is greatest. I wouldn't be comfortable with a return to the open-ended nature of the previous arrangement. I'd agree with that. Are those changes to the contitutions/articles a matter to be voted on by members? |
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| Author: | 7dominator [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:50 am ] |
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Kaptain Kouta wrote: JohnM wrote: They want him to stay on because of the lack of football nous on the board. The option, of course, is to find a suitably-credentialled candidate and endorse him to replace Kernahan. Perhaps the amendment could be 4 terms or 10 years, whichever is greatest. I wouldn't be comfortable with a return to the open-ended nature of the previous arrangement. I'd agree with that. Are those changes to the contitutions/articles a matter to be voted on by members? All changes to Constitution or articles must be voted on by those holding FULL VOTING MEMBERSHIP. |
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| Author: | blueboy8 [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:53 am ] |
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Thankx Smorgan every cent counts. |
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| Author: | 2ndeffort [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:10 am ] |
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Say what you like about the bloke's personality/media savvy but as far as I am concerned he has put his $$ where his mouth is. We're not currently in a postion to be too choosy about where the $$ come from, so good on you Graham for tipping in!! |
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:15 am ] |
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The board want Sticks on side, Pagan wants Sticks on side...... These people are well aware of the benefits of having an alliance with Kernahan. Sticks is loved by Carlton people and the powerbrokers are well aware of the "insulation" Sticks affords them. As for smorgon, good on him. On one hand we've got a President who puts in big hours at the club and tips in his own cash to assist us. Remember, everything he does for the club and every hour he spends there is voluntary and time he could be spending with his family. When Pagan gives up his 700 grand a year and tips in his own money, make Smorgon your target. Until then, value every cent his offers. |
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| Author: | Wild Blue Yonder [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:26 am ] |
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Everyone may have deficiencies but I see Smorgon working hard for the benefit of the club. He's now put his dough where it can help, so good on him. We buy memberships to support the club or do what we can, where and when we can; he's done his bit and in doing so proven his heart and head are in alignment. Now if he can get a big coterie group together to do the same ... |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:28 am ] |
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Blue Vain wrote: The board want Sticks on side, Pagan wants Sticks on side......
These people are well aware of the benefits of having an alliance with Kernahan. Sticks is loved by Carlton people and the powerbrokers are well aware of the "insulation" Sticks affords them. As for smorgon, good on him. On one hand we've got a President who puts in big hours at the club and tips in his own cash to assist us. Remember, everything he does for the club and every hour he spends there is voluntary and time he could be spending with his family. When Pagan gives up his 700 grand a year and tips in his own money, make Smorgon your target. Until then, value every cent his offers. faill call that. im not a big fan regards his approach, smorgon almost appeared to go from getting the presidency to asking for help in afl before he finished his acceptance speech. however, he has put his money where his mouth is - well done to him 
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