Sample size is too small, you need at least 30 wins to determine a relationship.
That will of course take you back to before Scotland and Steven's time at Carlton.
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| Author: | drsilvagni [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Scotland & Stevens star in our winning games |
Not sure what it says but interesting to see a few constant vote winners in the games we won or drew. Now please make two lines: one for those who think this shows how important these two are, another for those who reckon they're frontrunners. Round 1 Carlton 13.15 (93) d Melbourne 10.12 (72) 3 Stevens (Ca), 2 Scotland (Ca), 1 Waite (Ca) Round Seven Carlton 17.9 (111) d Essendon* 11.12 (78) 3 Stevens (Ca), 2 Fevola (Ca), 1 Scotland (Ca) Round 16 Essendon* 16.9 (105) drew Carlton 15.15 (105) 3 Scotland (Ca), 2 Simpson (Ca), 1 Lucas (E) Round 18 Carlton 12.8 (80) d Melbourne 10.13 (73) 3 Scotland (Ca), 2 Stevens (Ca), 1 Walker (Ca) |
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| Author: | Deano Supremo [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:54 pm ] |
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It shows that if your midfield works, you win games. Thus GET GIBBS |
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| Author: | magic [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:08 pm ] |
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AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW STEVENS. |
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| Author: | Jarusa [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:09 pm ] |
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Sample size is too small, you need at least 30 wins to determine a relationship. That will of course take you back to before Scotland and Steven's time at Carlton.
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| Author: | Chitty's Finger [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:13 pm ] |
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Could also be a reflection of umpires giving votes to the guys that look good running with the ball rather than the blokes stopping the opposition? Was very happy to see Bentick get votes in the Swans game as he works hard enough for 3 midfielders sometimes. |
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| Author: | thehalford [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scotland & Stevens star in our winning games |
drsilvagni wrote: Round 16
Essendon* 16.9 (105) drew Carlton 15.15 (105) 3 Scotland (Ca), 2 Simpson (Ca), 1 Lucas (E) Those were his only 2 votes? What a rip! Oh, and no way NS was our 3rd best player for the year. |
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:18 pm ] |
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Where are you BH? 
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| Author: | uncle john [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:50 pm ] |
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Blue Vain wrote: Where are you BH?
Waiting, waiting ................
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| Author: | verbs [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:20 pm ] |
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Jarusa wrote: Sample size is too small, you need at least 30 wins to determine a relationship.
That will of course take you back to before Scotland and Steven's time at Carlton. I've just taken a look at our last 25 wins/draws (back to 2002) and it pans out as follows (votes in years 2002-2006): N Stevens 22 (0,0,7,7,8 ) H Scotland 16 (0,0,6,1,9) B Fevola 14 (0,3,9,0,2) Kouta 10 (0,3,5,2,0) Campo 8 (2,0,6,0,0) Lappin 8 (0,0,8,0,0) Teague 6, J Murphy 5, etc |
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| Author: | Heavs [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:24 pm ] |
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verbs wrote: Jarusa wrote: Sample size is too small, you need at least 30 wins to determine a relationship. That will of course take you back to before Scotland and Steven's time at Carlton. I've just taken a look at our last 25 wins/draws (back to 2002) and it pans out as follows (votes in years 2002-2006): N Stevens 22 (0,0,7,7,8 ) H Scotland 16 (0,0,6,1,9) B Fevola 14 (0,3,9,0,2) Kouta 10 (0,3,5,2,0) Campo 8 (2,0,6,0,0) Lappin 8 (0,0,8,0,0) Teague 6, J Murphy 5, etc We're really not very good are we. |
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| Author: | verbs [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:29 pm ] |
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Five moments of happiness a year...nothing to sneeze at. |
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| Author: | WTTF [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scotland & Stevens star in our winning games |
drsilvagni wrote: Not sure what it says but interesting to see a few constant vote winners in the games we won or drew.
Now please make two lines: one for those who think this shows how important these two are, another for those who reckon they're frontrunners. Round 1 Carlton 13.15 (93) d Melbourne 10.12 (72) 3 Stevens (Ca), 2 Scotland (Ca), 1 Waite (Ca) Round Seven Carlton 17.9 (111) d Essendon* 11.12 (78) 3 Stevens (Ca), 2 Fevola (Ca), 1 Scotland (Ca) Round 16 Essendon* 16.9 (105) drew Carlton 15.15 (105) 3 Scotland (Ca), 2 Simpson (Ca), 1 Lucas (E) Round 18 Carlton 12.8 (80) d Melbourne 10.13 (73) 3 Scotland (Ca), 2 Stevens (Ca), 1 Walker (Ca) Fevola also kicked 5, 7, 5 & 4 goals in those games respectively, yet only got votes for his 7 goals in round 7. |
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| Author: | Ponkstar [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:25 pm ] |
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Yes but Fev doesn't do anything to make the umps' jobs easier does he? 
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| Author: | titimus [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:37 pm ] |
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Heavs wrote: verbs wrote: Jarusa wrote: Sample size is too small, you need at least 30 wins to determine a relationship. That will of course take you back to before Scotland and Steven's time at Carlton. I've just taken a look at our last 25 wins/draws (back to 2002) and it pans out as follows (votes in years 2002-2006): N Stevens 22 (0,0,7,7,8 ) H Scotland 16 (0,0,6,1,9) B Fevola 14 (0,3,9,0,2) Kouta 10 (0,3,5,2,0) Campo 8 (2,0,6,0,0) Lappin 8 (0,0,8,0,0) Teague 6, J Murphy 5, etc We're really not very good are we. lol |
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| Author: | troybond [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:40 pm ] |
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Where are all the posters who want Stevens traded. Imagine next year with Stevens,Murphy,Gibbs,Simpson,Scotland,Walker,Bentick and Blackwell. Come out come out wherever you are???????? 
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| Author: | Chitty's Finger [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:53 pm ] |
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troybond wrote: Where are all the posters who want Stevens traded. Imagine next year with Stevens,Murphy,Gibbs,Simpson,Scotland,Walker,Bentick and Blackwell.
Come out come out wherever you are???????? Yes anyone who gets a Brownlow Vote should be protected! Thornton...OUT YOU GO! Kouta ... screw up that contract youre TOAST! |
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| Author: | troybond [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:10 pm ] |
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Athorn the Wonderkid wrote: troybond wrote: Where are all the posters who want Stevens traded. Imagine next year with Stevens,Murphy,Gibbs,Simpson,Scotland,Walker,Bentick and Blackwell. Come out come out wherever you are???????? Yes anyone who gets a Brownlow Vote should be protected! Thornton...OUT YOU GO! Kouta ... screw up that contract youre TOAST! Just goes 2 show how fickle supporters are about our best mid!! Everyone raves about the year simo has had, yet nick stevens has again had a very good year and everyone wants him traded why, because they expect 30 possis per game. He is our only player that get's tagged FFs! Funny thing is that in all our wins he did contribute a hell of alot! Let's trade him and win 1 game a year and lose by 10 goals every week 
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| Author: | TheGame [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:14 pm ] |
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troybond wrote: Athorn the Wonderkid wrote: troybond wrote: Where are all the posters who want Stevens traded. Imagine next year with Stevens,Murphy,Gibbs,Simpson,Scotland,Walker,Bentick and Blackwell. Come out come out wherever you are???????? Yes anyone who gets a Brownlow Vote should be protected! Thornton...OUT YOU GO! Kouta ... screw up that contract youre TOAST! Just goes 2 show how fickle supporters are about our best mid!! Everyone raves about the year simo has had, yet nick stevens has again had a very good year and everyone wants him traded why, because they expect 30 possis per game. He is our only player that get's tagged FFs! Funny thing is that in all our wins he did contribute a hell of alot! Let's trade him and win 1 game a year and lose by 10 goals every week It's called tall poppy syndrome. He became the fall guy after Campo left. |
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| Author: | dannyboy [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:16 pm ] |
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na not everyone, Some and that's good what do you want a forum called Agreeing about Carlton? |
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| Author: | Elwood Blues1 [ Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:37 pm ] |
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Scotland has been good and produced max output for what he is rated and what we pay him.... Stevens hasnt....we have to expect Kerr, Judd, Cousins, West output from him because thats what we pay for....however he has been rumoured to be carrying an injury much like Bentick has all season and much like Wiggins...so you cant be too critical. Pagan appears to have forced players to play with injury and if thats the case then they get excused and judged on next seasons work when they are fit... We dont have many class players so I wouldnt be trading the few we have unless its the deal of a lifetime.... |
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