TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Where to play them 2007

For what its worth.

Whitnall Deep Forward CHF
Houlihan Forward Wing/HF
Fisher Back Flank HF
Wiggins Tagger of any description Yep
Stevens Winger Guts
Russell Wing Yep
Kennedy CHF Yep
Waite Forward if not succesful CHB CHB
Simpson On the Ball Wing/midfield
Lappin Back Flank Yep
Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,GIBBS guts Yep
Betts Forward Yes, but plenty of time in the midfield too
Hartlett CHB I'd give Waite first crack there, but somewhere back
Kouta Bench with occasional bursts on the ball and plugging other holes (maybe even CHB) Not a forward, and not a defender. Impact player in the midfield or an a wing
Carrazzo On the ball when on the field Yep
S O'Hailpin In defence with the option of a go in the ruck. Yep
Bower Backline Yep
cant be bothered with the reasons but hey this is what I think. Agree or disagree please. Obviously the way footy is played these days players can just about play every position in one game but this is where these players are best suited.

Fisher Back Flank

Russell Wing

Hartlett CHB

Carrazzo On the ball when on the field

Walker on ball as well.

Let himself down badly with his kicking for goal though. Was surprised that they didn't play him there again.

there are quite a few players i cant find room for in our team....

the main one that seems to be high on everyones agenda this year is wiggo.....just cant find a spot for him

Carrazo: Bullants/Bench

Might get a bit of stick for it but seriously I just don't rate him as highly as others. I think he is just about the worst kick in our team which is saying something!! :shock:

Yeah I know all the romance of working hard and getting on 2 rookie lists and establishing himself but to be frank IMO we'll be a good team when Carrazzo is nothing more than a depth player for us.

..........unless he improves his kicking dramatically.

Author:	keogh [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:07 pm ]
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For what its worth. Whitnall Deep Forward Houlihan Forward Fisher Back Flank Wiggins Tagger of any description Stevens Winger Russell Wing Kennedy CHF Waite Forward if not succesful CHB Simpson On the Ball Lappin Back Flank Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,Gibbs guts Betts Forward Hartlett CHB Kouta Bench with occasional bursts on the ball and plugging other holes (maybe even CHB) Carrazzo On the ball when on the field S O'Hailpin In defence with the option of a go in the ruck. Bower Backline cant be bothered with the reasons but hey this is what I think. Agree or disagree please. Obviously the way footy is played these days players can just about play every position in one game but this is where these players are best suited.

Author:	Siegfried [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:28 pm ]
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keogh wrote: For what its worth. Whitnall Deep Forward CHF Houlihan Forward Wing/HF Fisher Back Flank HF Wiggins Tagger of any description Yep Stevens Winger Guts Russell Wing Yep Kennedy CHF Yep Waite Forward if not succesful CHB CHB Simpson On the Ball Wing/midfield Lappin Back Flank Yep Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,GIBBS guts Yep Betts Forward Yes, but plenty of time in the midfield too Hartlett CHB I'd give Waite first crack there, but somewhere back Kouta Bench with occasional bursts on the ball and plugging other holes (maybe even CHB) Not a forward, and not a defender. Impact player in the midfield or an a wing Carrazzo On the ball when on the field Yep S O'Hailpin In defence with the option of a go in the ruck. Yep Bower Backline Yep cant be bothered with the reasons but hey this is what I think. Agree or disagree please. Obviously the way footy is played these days players can just about play every position in one game but this is where these players are best suited.

Author:	Siegfried [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:29 pm ]
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Of course there will be lots of rotations with those.

Author:	Stefchook [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:48 pm ]
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keogh wrote: Fisher Back Flank Russell Wing Hartlett CHB Carrazzo On the ball when on the field With Fisher's kicking, we can't afford to play him at half back. Turn overs coming out of defence kill teams these days. Russell should probably play as a running defender with some time in midfield. Like Walker not a natural ball-winner yet, needs to learn from playing tight on good players. Hartlett probably doesn't have the motor to play centre half back. More likely to get a go at full back with Livingston's delisting. Carrazzo will need to play as a defensive small as well at times. We don't currently have a lot who can do this effectively on our list at the moment. (Here's hoping we pick up Brock O'Brien at 17 or 19.)

Author:	keogh [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:55 pm ]
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Walker on ball as well.

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Author:	Sniff Wilson [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:06 pm ]
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there are quite a few players i cant find room for in our team.... the main one that seems to be high on everyones agenda this year is wiggo.....just cant find a spot for him

Author:	Siegfried [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:07 pm ]
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keogh wrote: Walker on ball as well. Definitely. Time to release walker into the midfield. Carrazzo played a game last year (against Hawthorn?) out of a forward pocket, and did really well. Marked everything that came his way, and his timing on his leads was excellent. Let himself down badly with his kicking for goal though. Was surprised that they didn't play him there again.

Author:	AGRO [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:45 pm ]
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Siegfried wrote: Let himself down badly with his kicking for goal though. Was surprised that they didn't play him there again. No surprise really when you consider that one of his deliberate set shots at goal was about 20 metres out and he didn't make the distance. But put him hard on the boundary with no visible daylight between the sticks - no problem.

Author:	amazonstud [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:46 pm ]
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Still see a few problems with our team with no standout for the back pocket or first ruck and a general changing of the guard. I think Wiggins may get a go in the back pocket as he probably has more pace than the other contender in Carrazzo. Both have a fierce attack on the ball ands both have problems with disposal on occasions so Wiggo's superior pace may get him the role. I'm not sure if Bentick has more pace than Wiggo and I think with Murphy etc in the midfield then Bentick feeding it out is an important part of the mix. Perhaps Jackson if he gets elevated could be a chance in the back pocket? There are some options for either the third tall defender or CHB but doubts over the fitness of Hartwell and Saddington and Carlos still learning the role may mean Whitnall is probably the first selection. Waite is an option but has not played a lot in defence and it may be too steep a learning curve. Perhaps Kennedy and Whitnall can interchange between CHF and CHB? It may also take some of the pressure off Josh.

Author:	Nick [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:34 pm ]
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Carrazo: Bullants/Bench Might get a bit of stick for it but seriously I just don't rate him as highly as others. I think he is just about the worst kick in our team which is saying something!! Yeah I know all the romance of working hard and getting on 2 rookie lists and establishing himself but to be frank IMO we'll be a good team when Carrazzo is nothing more than a depth player for us. ..........unless he improves his kicking dramatically.

Author:	ryan2000 [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:36 pm ]
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For what its worth. Whitnall - Deep Forward Houlihan - Bullants Fisher - still not sure Wiggins - centre/forward Stevens - centre Russell - Bullants Kennedy - CHF Waite - test in midfield & CHB Simpson - rover Lappin - Back Flank Blackwell,Bentick,Murphy,GIBBS guts Betts - Forward Hartlett - Bullants Kouta - Centre. Still one of the best at centre clearances S O'Hailpin - Defense / Ruck Bower - Backline / Wing

Author:	malbi [ Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:40 pm ]
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bnz wrote: there are quite a few players i cant find room for in our team.... the main one that seems to be high on everyones agenda this year is wiggo.....just cant find a spot for him Forward flank/Wing

Author:	marciblue [ Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:22 am ]
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Ideal positions Four-pronged tall attack Fevola - Full Forward Kennedy - Centre Half Forward Fisher - Forward Pocket Waite - Half Forward Flank/Wing plus Betts - Forward Pocket Wiggins - Half Forward Flank Rucks Ackland - 1st Ruck McLaren - 2nd Ruck Midfielders/On-ball Houlihan - Wing/Half Forward Flank Stevens - Centre/On-ball Scotland - Centre/On-ball Walker - On-ball Simpson - Wing/On-ball Blackwell - Centre Bentick - Centre (bench) Murphy - Centre/On-ball Gibbs - On-ball/Half Back Flank Kouta - Centre (bench) Backs Whitnall - Centre Half Back (eventually moving to the Half Forward line when someone steps up to CHB) Thornton - Full Back/Half Back Flank/Back Pocket (where necessary) Russell - Half Back Flank Hartlett - Full Back Lappin - Half Back Flank Carrazzo - Back Pocket/On-ball Setanta O'Hailpin - Back Pocket/Half Back Flank (picking up a tall) Bower - Back Pocket/Half Back Flank Saddington - Half Back Flank/Centre Half Back Potentially another 1 or 2 draft pick from this year can be added to this group as there are a decent list of potential draftees that are genuine class and could possibly slot into the mix.

Author:	The Duke [ Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:21 pm ]
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Nick wrote: Carrazo: Bullants/Bench Might get a bit of stick for it but seriously I just don't rate him as highly as others. I think he is just about the worst kick in our team which is saying something!! Yeah I know all the romance of working hard and getting on 2 rookie lists and establishing himself but to be frank IMO we'll be a good team when Carrazzo is nothing more than a depth player for us. ..........unless he improves his kicking dramatically. Agree - he'll battle to keep his spot with Murphy fit, Gibbs, Hartlett, Bower and Setanta. We still won't have the best back 6 in the comp, but it will be better for not having Carrazzo there.

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Author:	baz_baz [ Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:06 pm ]
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I dont see Scotland in your list.....Surely worth a spot

Author:	Dukes [ Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:20 pm ]
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Carazzo is still our best bet at back pocket. We can fool ourselves all we like but thats his best position unless his kicking and finishing dramatically improves.