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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:55 pm 
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We (as always) had very high hopes for these new Carlton players in December 2003.

Things don't always work out for the best; no matter how much effort is put in to a project but......
these guys wore (and some still wear) the famous Carlton jumper.

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We were gifted (or cursed) Walker and Stevens.

Scotto was a good get.

The rest was all speculative re-hashing and mature pickups.

Shame about Cory.

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It was the best of times. :-D


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Very few of the recycled players were likely to go on to be long term players.


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I've still got high hopes for Setanta....huge, raw talent improving all the time.

When I found that article/pic; I was struck by the optimism in all of the faces.

We did do better than expected in 2004; but it was perhaps predictably (in hindsight) shortlived, unfortunately.

We did so well in the past with recycled players such as
Glenn Manton, Matty Hogg, Dean Rice, Justin Madden
and Matt Clape to name a few off the top of my head....
it can work.


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Rejects get rejected because they aint good enough. Its like that second marriage. Its ok for a while but after about a year you slip into old habits and you get the arse again.


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keogh wrote:
Rejects get rejected because they aint good enough. Its like that second marriage. Its ok for a while but after about a year you slip into old habits and you get the arse again.


Funny....I don't know of a single second Marriage that hasn't been successful; and the five players I mentioned above, all played in a Premiership.


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A true stat warby.

2nd marriages have a worse strike rate than the U.S.A cricket team.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:17 pm 
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4 players there have genuine talent - Stevens, Walker, Setanta and Scotland.

3 players there are/were serviceable - McGrath, Teague and Bannister

Useless - Kenna, Harford, Clarke, Mott, Bowyer

Underutilised - Johnson, Morrell

Overutilized - Deluca


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timetodeliver2004 wrote:
4 players there have genuine talent - Stevens, Walker, Setanta and Scotland.

3 players there are/were serviceable - McGrath, Teague and Bannister

Useless - Kenna, Harford, Clarke, Mott, Bowyer

Underutilised - Johnson, Morrell

Overutilized - Deluca


Fair assessment TTD. Still reckon that McGrath was unlucky.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:31 pm 
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Warby wrote:
We (as always) had very high hopes for these new Carlton players in December 2003.


We???

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:39 pm 
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Carlton God wrote:
Warby wrote:
We (as always) had very high hopes for these new Carlton players in December 2003.


We???


CG saw that there was no light at the end. :roll:

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There aren't too many drafts you come out of with that many quality players. There's another thread that shows over the last 10+ years we've averaged about 1 player per draft who has gone on to play decent and regular football, in 03' we took close to 4 maybe 5 players who will be a part of our next successful team and lost nothing in return for it.


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Aaron Davey, Shane Tuck and Ben Hudson were all "retreads" from the 2003 draft.

Under the circumstances I don't think we had much choice than to go for retreads however we missed the good ones (Scotland excepted - bargain for pick #35).

Big deal, we sacrificed picks #50 onwards in the 2003 draft.

We have made far worse mistakes.

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timetodeliver2004 wrote:
Overutilized - Deluca


:lol: :lol:

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How young does Setanta look in that pic?!

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Warby wrote:
I've still got high hopes for Setanta....huge, raw talent improving all the time.

When I found that article/pic; I was struck by the optimism in all of the faces.

We did do better than expected in 2004; but it was perhaps predictably (in hindsight) shortlived, unfortunately.

We did so well in the past with recycled players such as
Glenn Manton, Matty Hogg, Dean Rice, Justin Madden
and Matt Clape to name a few off the top of my head....
it can work.


Spaulding, Brad Pearce, a certain Deisel W.....


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geez, how short was/is kenna. Love to see him next to eddie, as a comparisin of small forwards.

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Shippy_cfc wrote:
geez, how short was/is kenna. Love to see him next to eddie, as a comparisin of small forwards.


Steve Kenna (who is still only 25)....170cm and 69kg.

Eddie Betts....173cm and 75kg.


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timetodeliver2004 wrote:
4 players there have genuine talent - Stevens, Walker, Setanta and Scotland.

3 players there are/were serviceable - McGrath, Teague and Bannister

Useless - Kenna, Harford, Clarke, Mott, Bowyer

Underutilised - Johnson, Morrell

Overutilized - Deluca


Y'know *before I read the second page* I spared a thought for Kenna... a precursor to Betts, and didn't fare too badly considering the little ground time he got that year... I wouldn't however rate him as useless, sure Betts in better - but if Betts wasn't in our team (as I believe that you can't have more than one player of their type in a team) I would have hoped that Kenna was still with us...


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