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Author:  BrizzyBlue [ Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:13 pm ]
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Many of us think that there needs to be wholesale changes to the list/team for the future and there have been many theories as to how to fix the list/team. We can only wonder what Denis and the MC are thinking, but you can almost guarantee that they are planning for the future now. I thought that I would follow up on the raft of threads devoted to this subject with some possible solutions.

If the predictions from my "The List from 2003-2006", "MIA" and "Pago Pago" posts eventuate, then we are going to acquire: at least 1 decent player in the trade period, 1 quality player in the Pre Season Draft, at least 2 ready to play 18 year olds in the National Draft and upgrade a rookie or two as well as blood some of last years draft selections.

I really believe that is the way it will all pan out. In fact, I think that about one third of our best side will be made up of players not exposed or even at the club yet. So its time to have a crack at how it might look. We do have some real quality on our list, just not enough depth. NB: New to the side in bold.

Backs: Andrew Carrazzo Luke Livingston Chris Bryan

Half Backs: Trade Bret Thornton Jordan Russell

Centre: Kade Simpson Nick Stevens Andrew Walker

Half Forwards: Brad Fisher Jarrad Waite Matthew Lappin

Forwards: Jesse Smith Brendan Fevola Lance Whitnall

Followers: Barnaby French Anthony Koutoufides PSD 1

Interchange: Adam Hartlett Luke Blackwell Pick 1 Pick 2

Emergencies: Eddie Betts Justin Davies Setanta O’hAilpin


Midfield Rotation Options:

Anthony Koutoufides
Nick Stevens
Andrew Walker
Kade Simpson
Andrew Carrazzo
PSD 1
Pick 1
Pick 2
Jesse Smith
Jordan Russell
Luke Blackwell


I reckon that’s a pretty good side. Height, speed, strength and plenty of guts. All ingredients for a successful era. Go through those that I couldn’t squeeze in too. Plenty of depth there. What think you?

Author:  Synbad [ Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:57 pm ]
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No Lance and Campo????

the side already looks better..... :D

Author:  grrofunger [ Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:58 pm ]
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Lance is in the forward pocket

Author:  london blue [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:12 am ]
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with a side like that we'll need 2006 concessions as well :shock:

we haven't got depth, and another draft will not fix it

what have hopefully got is PATIENCE :idea:

Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:23 am ]
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here is my team - it starts by us trading everyone and starting again and my side looks like this

from the backline

picks 1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
10 11 12
13 14 15

Ruck 16
RR 17
Rover 18

interchange Picks 19 20 21 & 22

emergencies picks 23, 24 & 25.

Dman fine team that.... In five years we'll be playing off for a flag or we just rteade the lot and start again.

swapsies anyone?

Author:  Jarusa [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:26 am ]
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That is a shit forward line.

Everyone knows only picks 1 and 2 are any good!

Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:27 am ]
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hey its a great forward line and, and you can swivel the board around and it still works!

Author:  Synbad [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:30 am ]
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Jarusa wrote:
That is a shit forward line.

Everyone knows only picks 1 and 2 are any good!
But at least you end up with 2 good players this year... actually not good.. GUNS... we dont have too many of those ....

We have Campo and Whits.

And yes we have late picks too... but theyre not too flash.

so i reckon a number 1 pick wouldnt be a bad thing to try to add to Walker.
And Jarusa???

This years draft is a shallow draft... so you better pray we get picks 1 and 2.. cos if we dont.... were [REDACTED]!!!!!!!!!!

Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:32 am ]
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hey where that spooky music coming from?

Author:  Jarusa [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:37 am ]
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Synbad wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
That is a shit forward line.

Everyone knows only picks 1 and 2 are any good!
But at least you end up with 2 good players this year... actually not good.. GUNS... we dont have too many of those ....

We have Campo and Whits.

And yes we have late picks too... but theyre not too flash.

so i reckon a number 1 pick wouldnt be a bad thing to try to add to Walker.
And Jarusa???

This years draft is a shallow draft... so you better pray we get picks 1 and 2.. cos if we dont.... were F@%&#!!!!!!!!!!!


Synbad, we will never be [REDACTED] if we draft kids with our 1st and 2nd round picks (wherever those picks are).

You are obsessed by the numbers, but it is the process that matters.

Drafting kids and developing them is what we should have been doing for 10+ years. We are only 2 years in to the process.

The process is in place. If our recruiting team is up to the task they will give the coaching staff something to work with. Whether they are pick 1's or pick 8's it does not matter. The list will be built by drafting and developing youth.

Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:42 am ]
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I'll raise your pick 10 with my pick 3!

Author:  Synbad [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:53 am ]
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Jarusa wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
That is a shit forward line.

Everyone knows only picks 1 and 2 are any good!
But at least you end up with 2 good players this year... actually not good.. GUNS... we dont have too many of those ....

We have Campo and Whits.

And yes we have late picks too... but theyre not too flash.

so i reckon a number 1 pick wouldnt be a bad thing to try to add to Walker.
And Jarusa???

This years draft is a shallow draft... so you better pray we get picks 1 and 2.. cos if we dont.... were F@%&#!!!!!!!!!!!


Synbad, we will never be F@%&#! if we draft kids with our 1st and 2nd round picks (wherever those picks are).

You are obsessed by the numbers, but it is the process that matters.

Drafting kids and developing them is what we should have been doing for 10+ years. We are only 2 years in to the process.

The process is in place. If our recruiting team is up to the task they will give the coaching staff something to work with. Whether they are pick 1's or pick 8's it does not matter. The list will be built by drafting and developing youth.


You run a website called footy geek .com thats full of numbers and you reckon im obsessed with numbers??? :roll: :lol:

Picks 1 and picks 8 dont matter???

then how come people try and trade for pick 8???

Ok in the last 5 years give me a list of who picks 1 are and a list of who pick 8 are and then you can choose who youd rather have.... :roll:

Author:  BrizzyBlue [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:18 am ]
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dannyboy wrote:
hey its a great forward line and, and you can swivel the board around and it still works!


Hey Danny Old Fruit,

Just spied your team. Haven't laughed so much since Granny got her norgles caught in the mangle! :shock:

Author:  Jarusa [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:19 am ]
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Last five years is too early to determine the players they will become, how about the five years before that (1995-1999 drafts).

pick 1.
Clive Waterhouse
Michael S. Gardiner
Travis Johnstone
Des Headland
Josh Fraser

pick 8.
Jared Crouch
Leigh Brockman
Chris Tarrant
Jude Bolton
Joel Corey

Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:22 am ]
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now Jar Jar don't go turning this into a serious argument with well you know that fcats thingys, just shut up and take pick 1 okay!

Author:  BrizzyBlue [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:23 am ]
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Hey Jars,

Don't you ever sleep? :?

Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:24 am ]
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oh and isn't this pre Judd we all know the world changed after Judd there is football BJ (though some mistakingly think its TJ) and footbal AJ (no not AD - just Ask Agro AD is a bastardization of AJ!)l

Author:  Jarusa [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:24 am ]
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BrizzyBlue wrote:
Hey Jars,

Don't you ever sleep? :?


I blame cricket. :)

Author:  Rambo Stallone [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:57 am ]
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Jesse Smith in the starting 22 boy the kid hasn't even played AFL, if he gets picked up he may be in the starting 30 if his lucky.

Author:  Jarusa [ Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:23 am ]
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Jarusa wrote:
Last five years is too early to determine the players they will become, how about the five years before that (1995-1999 drafts).

pick 1.
Clive Waterhouse
Michael S. Gardiner
Travis Johnstone
Des Headland
Josh Fraser

pick 8.
Jared Crouch
Leigh Brockman
Chris Tarrant
Jude Bolton
Joel Corey


C'mon Synbad, where are you?

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