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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:40 am 
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Victorian football's fiercest rivals, Collingwood and Carlton, last night joined forces in their unanimous disgust at Channel Ten's decision to snub their next scheduled prime-time clash in favour of the showdown between Port Adelaide and Adelaide.

http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news ... 94090.html

What a debacle. WA derby on Friday night, SA derby on the Saturday night. Taking the national competition too far. I used to rate channel 10 - no longer.


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While I apppreciate Collo's and Eddie's frustrations, Eddie's obviously more to do with the TV network than Collingwood's needs, well IMO, anyway, I think the final quote from Steven Trigg sums up the situation reasonably well...

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"I still wonder if Melbourne really understands the depth and complexity of this incredibly physical and intense rivalry between the two clubs here," said Trigg.


That said, this is a kick in the teeth for the club and probably has as much to do with Ch10 v Eddie as anything, but I can just about hear ThePrez's words of condemnation about our "move" right now...

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We're fricking last v third last. Why would they show it as opposed to a potential game to shape the top 4.

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camelboy wrote:
That said, this is a kick in the teeth for the club and probably has as much to do with Ch10 v Eddie as anything, but I can just about hear ThePrez's words of condemnation about our "move" right now...


i dont think i need to say anymore do i?

once again shows that our board got hood winked into a deal that the AFL has is supposed to have control over.

Its the broadcaster that controls free to air TV and this is yet another case of why we got shafted in the deal.

No Collingwood v Carlton isnt even worth the FTA TV? No matter, im sure fox footy and the locals pubs will be making a mint now.

this game is [REDACTED].

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Heavs wrote:
We're fricking last v third last. Why would they show it as opposed to a potential game to shape the top 4.


a. because we would rate higher

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A. BECAUSE WE WOULD F@CKING RATE HIGHER,SIMPLE FOR GOD SAKE YOU CAN NOT WORK THIS OUT FOR YOURSELF.

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ThePrez wrote:
camelboy wrote:
That said, this is a kick in the teeth for the club and probably has as much to do with Ch10 v Eddie as anything, but I can just about hear ThePrez's words of condemnation about our "move" right now...


i dont think i need to say anymore do i?

once again shows that our board got hood winked into a deal that the AFL has is supposed to have control over.

Its the broadcaster that controls free to air TV and this is yet another case of why we got shafted in the deal.

No Collingwood v Carlton isnt even worth the FTA TV? No matter, im sure fox footy and the locals pubs will be making a mint now.

this game is F@%&#!.



Why is it [REDACTED]?????

Wont you be there????

This is a blockbuster thaT could potentially be a game for the woodenspoon that neither team would want to win because it effects draft choices.

Why would a station responsible to its shareholders take it?

Who said we thought the AFL controlled which games get shown on tv... it controls fixturing.

Some people are really losing the plot.........

Youre going to tell me if we stayed at Optus we would have had that game free to air ????

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Funny how Carlton has been getting screwed over FTA for years and nothing is said. Happens to Collingwood and alll hell breaks loose.


Sidenote, Gee Synbad not only wants us to lose footy games now he doesn't even want us on FTA. Who is he working for? :wink:

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RoK wrote:
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We're fricking last v third last. Why would they show it as opposed to a potential game to shape the top 4.


a. because we would rate higher

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A. BECAUSE WE WOULD F@CKING RATE HIGHER,SIMPLE FOR GOD SAKE YOU CAN NOT WORK THIS OUT FOR YOURSELF.


It might rate higher into Melboure, but last time I looked Melbourne didn't encompass all viewers for a match that will be "broadcast nationally" and herein lies the problem IMO.

You're probably right, overall the game probably would rate higher, definitely in Melbourne, and quite possibly nationally as well. But there's a couple of other forces at play here.

1. This is a national game, and the broadcast will go Australia wide, so perhaps the Melbourne-centric view should be moved to one side for a moment, even though it does seem clear that a quite a high number of who live in Melbourne are unable to grasp this concept.

2. Channel 10 and Eddie/Channel 9 are at loggerheads, what better way for them to piss Eddie off than to pass up the right to broadcast a 16th v 14th "blockbuster".

Oh, and one last one for Prez, if indeed the board has been "hoodwinked", without the benefit of hindsight, back when the deicsion was made and the proposals put forward, how were they not acting in the best interests of the club, or do you expect them to know the brodcasting movements of Channel 10 some 12 months out?

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last time i looked each state had the choice of what they could view.

i can fully understand why they would show port v crows in adelaide in every other state if they wanted to.

but not in melbourne?

crazy talk, thats crazy talk marge, your talking crazy

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Synbad wrote:
ThePrez wrote:
camelboy wrote:
That said, this is a kick in the teeth for the club and probably has as much to do with Ch10 v Eddie as anything, but I can just about hear ThePrez's words of condemnation about our "move" right now...


i dont think i need to say anymore do i?

once again shows that our board got hood winked into a deal that the AFL has is supposed to have control over.

Its the broadcaster that controls free to air TV and this is yet another case of why we got shafted in the deal.

No Collingwood v Carlton isnt even worth the FTA TV? No matter, im sure fox footy and the locals pubs will be making a mint now.

this game is F@%&#!.



Why is it F@%&#!?????

Wont you be there????

This is a blockbuster thaT could potentially be a game for the woodenspoon that neither team would want to win because it effects draft choices.

Why would a station responsible to its shareholders take it?

Who said we thought the AFL controlled which games get shown on tv... it controls fixturing.

Some people are really losing the plot.........

Youre going to tell me if we stayed at Optus we would have had that game free to air ????

:lol:


Good response Synbad,thought the same thing myself.

To suggest that the Channel ten decision to show this game has something to do with us being shafted is drawing a very long bow indeed.

Our on field permances DO NOT warrant us being on prime time free to air at the expense of a likely finals determing game!

Methinks that some need a reality check.


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On the bright side if it's on Fox Footy it'll mean no ads and no Michael Christian.


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So we should watch a slug fest between 14th and 16th that is actually on in this city rather than a key match to shape the top 4 between great rivals in another city?

Why aren't you actually going to the Coll v Carl match?

What a joke!


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This is GOOD news for me. As I get back from the US on that morning I was worried I was going to have to listen to the radio broadcast and watch the delayed telecast (if we were close) which would take up valuable time with the kids after being away for 10 days. At least now I can sit down with them and watch it live on Fox and everyone's happy :D .

Let's be realistic, if it's such a big game for Melbournians, go along to the G - Eddie should be happy he'll get better gate takings.


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ThePrez wrote:
last time i looked each state had the choice of what they could view.

i can fully understand why they would show port v crows in adelaide in every other state if they wanted to.

but not in melbourne?

crazy talk, thats crazy talk marge, your talking crazy


Fair enough, but that is Channel 10s decision. Anyway, I wouldn't be complaining too much, at least it will be on at a reasonable time in your neck of the woods. The benefit for the Northern states is that at least we'll be able to see our game LIVE on Foxtel, rather than at 1am the following day.

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old55 wrote:
So we should watch a slug fest between 14th and 16th that is actually on in this city rather than a key match to shape the top 4 between great rivals in another city?

Why aren't you actually going to the Coll v Carl match?

What a joke!


Isnt there a 5 day break you have to whinge about?

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in the end it doesnt effect me one sceric as i will be there.

but it baffles me how the same people continue to tell me who the move was such a great thing for the club - yet we seem to get a new shafting in one form or another every week. sorry. im not happy with the game at all at the moment.

we seem to go from shaft to shaft and the club seems to do little about it.

and then there is the way we are playing.

the only positive about this - is the fact that collo has actually said something about it for once.

thank christ walker and waite are having good years otherwise this would be the worst year in the history of the club

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The tide is turning i think that this is a sign that teams like Collingwood who hold the AFL by the balls should no longer get any favourtism because they are the biggest club in the australia.

Why do the pies have a Anzac game, Easter monday game and there own round in Sydney teams like Melbourne and the Bulldogs who are on there way up should be considered before Collingwood, Essendon* and Carlton.

Channel 10 have made the right decision and i think that the tide is turning and the next TV rights will no longer favour Collingwood when it comes to programming and the fixture of games.


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buzzaaaah wrote:
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So we should watch a slug fest between 14th and 16th that is actually on in this city rather than a key match to shape the top 4 between great rivals in another city?

Why aren't you actually going to the Coll v Carl match?

What a joke!


Isnt there a 5 day break you have to whinge about?


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AFL Rok - not VFL, AFL. I'm sure 10, who have experienced people whose job it is to predict the ratings before programming the games, decided that their may be a slight ratings drop in Melbourne but around the country a shitload more people would want to see an important game in the context of the season as opposed to a game between two aging dinosaurs holding up the foot of the ladder.

If it bothers you that much ROK go to the @#$%&! game or get some mates, hop off the computer and pop down to a pub to watch it on Fox. You just might like it.

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