Why does everyone blame Camporeale bringing Carlton down i don't know, sure he may lose his cool when he busts his guts out while others seem to not play at times but he has been a valuable player for the blues.
His contract might be over the top so is Whitnall,Lappin and Kouta but that's the fault of previous managers and Carlton Board.

The problem is the midfield is Kouta,Camporeale and Stevens and the others are just not good enough or just dont really care maybe Walker,Blackwell will make it one day and others but at the moment Camporeale is miles a head of players like Scotland,Chambers,Wiggins and Johnson

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Because some posters have vendettas against Camporeale expressed by way of emotive and vitriolic diatribe which blames Camporeale for just about everything that is wrong in this world. They have anti-Campo agendas and as such will never be able to admit when Camporeale does well or deserves some sort of praise. A complete lack of respect for someone who has played over 200 games of footy for the club.

His contract is entirely the fault of the previous regime at Carlton. But at the time Campo was worth the money and probably more and nobody was complaining. He has been paid handsomely, as he deserved to be paid a couple of years ago. Nobody in their right mind would turn down what Camporeale is allegedly on.

We need more help for Campo, Kouta, Stevens etc.

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Formerly Blues-Back2003.

Oooooh how exciting another campo thread...

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Congratulations CK95

did you know camporeale backwards is elaeropmac?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Sound like a good name for a race horse, might keep that one upmy sleeve for later . Thanks

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Did you know that Camporeale's mum is a really good cook?

Quick serious answer to Rambo's question:

Because people look at the top 3 players in other teams and see guys like Ricciuto, Brown, Ball, Riewoldt, Buckley, Judd, Aker... etc, and get pissed off that Campo isn't as good as them.

Yet he's probably/possibly getting the same money (well, we have to pay 92.5% of the cap, so there's always going to be overpaid players in every crap team).

And they get pissed off at him in a weird roundabout way that has little to do with Campo, and everything to do with the salary cap system that FORCES us supporters to care about how much the players earn, when we'd rather not.

That, and it's a well known and oft-proved fact that every organisation needs scapegoats when things go wrong.

By the way, I think Campo was greedy asking for so much money a few years back. But then, I think greed is inbuilt into a system that happily pays one 22 year old footballer more than six intensive care nurses (highly trained people who may well one day save your life) put together.

Who is 'everyone' ??

As John said the top players at other clubs deliver results for that money..we dont get the same output from Campo and our other highly paid so called stars...sure its the previous Admin's fault he is on that amount of dough but its just a fact we made a poor investment and some of us want to cut our losses...its not about hating campo , whitnall or kouta...you want to fix the problems then we have you have to start looking at where your money is going and what return you are getting on it....

Stevens isnt performing at 500k output per season either, more like 400K...Lance at 200k and Kouta at 300K, Campo at 150K....we are paying way over the top for what we are getting back in return and as a member/supporter you have every right to ask questions of these players and the previous admin.......should have been performance based contracts...they perform then I dont mind paying them top dollar....

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Might be a European Thing, something about history....

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Its the human mentality, when things go bad we need to find an escape goat...

It's funny on here, we have the 'Blame the senior players camp', which I sort of agree with, and the 'Blame the next tier of players camp' which I agree with more....

the simple fact is that the entire list isn't good enough as yet. We have a number of tryers, look at the Bullants team, but a real lack of polish to bring these tryers into the game. We are a number of players short of where we need to be and this is evidenced by our low W/L ratio over the past few years and current spot on the ladder.

The question isn't in the past, it's in the future. With the large(r) contracts running off we finally get some cap to throw at other players, plus draft picks. Pagan will continue to improve the list and yes we're going to lose a number of retreads in the off-season.

Because therein lies the problem. He doesn't bust his guts out for the team. If he busts a gut, it's for himself and to make himself alone look good. This attitude is a problem in a team with a lot of younger players, who look to our more experienced, and premiership players for guidance. The guidance they seem to be getting from the more selfish players, however, is to play for easy possessions, and to remonstrate with their teammates, against umpires, and to generally allow themselves to get distracted from general play

Scott Camporeale is, unfortunately, a perfect example of all those things, all in the one wiry package, and all the character traits we don't want or need at carlton.

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Who hates Campo? Have i missed something

Put Campo up on a forward flank and leave him there to score goals, that is what made him such a great player intially, his ability to wave through packs and kick running goals. In Netball terms make him Wing Attack, cannot go into the defensive half of the game.

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You still have to pay 92.5% of the TPP. If we put everyone on performance based contracts we'd probably only be paying about 50%!

When did I say I put the entire list on performance based contracts?
Some players who need the motivation of extra dollars ..yes....especially players at the end of their careers looking for a retirement pension based on a few past glories and a lack of emerging talent that forces the team management to pay excessive contracts to older fading stars to keep the team competitive.... or so they think....

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
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- Conor Gillen

Jarusa, any chance we could get a stat on % of total posts that relate to Campo and how many of those are negative?

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You lazy bastard.

There have been 1829 posts where 'campo' has been mentioned in the 33,000 odd posts in this forum.

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mjonc wrote:

Who hates Campo? Have i missed something

Put Campo up on a forward flank and leave him there to score goals, that is what made him such a great player intially, his ability to wave through packs and kick running goals. In Netball terms make him Wing Attack, cannot go into the defensive half of the game.

Wouldn't that require him to be accountable to a HBF running off the backline?

I thought Campo only runs one way!

Good point. But if he listens to Rexy:

"Camporeale should put up or move on"

It would be a good move.

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5.5% Geez man, you forgot the %

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010