TalkingCarlton :: View topic - How Do You Rate Denis's Coaching?

I think this question is a bit broad.

Is it in relation to the match day? if so, I think he is a little on the average side. Even with this crap list, he has demonstrated slow tactical changes and a lack of a real "Plan B"

Has any team ever been in the position that they won more pre-season games than they have games in the entire home and away season? We must be close to at least obtaining one record this year.

Still, he won, won of the two premierships on offer this year, so you can't complain, there are going to be 14 other teams in the comp that walk away with nothing.

however, I must admit I was searching for the crap option too.

Has any team ever had a leadership taking so much money and giving so little in return?

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Has any team ever had a leadership taking so much money and giving so little in return?

Synbad, what leadership responsibilities does DP and his coaching panel have? We're spending a million bucks on coaches, surely they have some responsibility for the team's performance, surely we expect them to provide leadership, they have to do more than give excuses. We have an ordinary team, playing without any discernible spark, skill, strategy or interest. Players responsible ? - Sure. Coaches responsible? Absolutely.

DP is there for 3 more years and he has a huge challenge ahead of him, but we have to have changes to his coaching panel. We have to get someone young in to think strategically, to communicate with the players, to challenge entrenched ideas and do things DP doesn't do well. Players certainly share responsibility for our plight, but I don't know how anyone could excuse the coach responsibility for what has happened over the last few years.

Mark, think you'll find Kernahan is the one "match commitee change" Synbad is reffering to. :wink:

Gotta love the Synbad, slams me for suggesting that changes need to be made in the off field staff, even claims the coaching staff have been re-signed for three years. AND then admits that there will be changes at years end.

Calls me a tripper :garthp:

Author:	BlueMark [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:37 pm ]
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So how do you think how he has been going?

Author:	dannyboy [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:39 pm ]
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I see your heading down that street Mark. This should stir up a hornet's nest. in other words why do you ask?

Author:	BlueMark [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:41 pm ]
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Just interested thats all

Author:	bluechucky [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:45 pm ]
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I think this question is a bit broad. Is it in relation to the match day? if so, I think he is a little on the average side. Even with this crap list, he has demonstrated slow tactical changes and a lack of a real "Plan B"

Author:	Bluebernz [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:47 pm ]
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Ask me again once he's got a decent list to work with.

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Author:	Sydney Blue [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:16 pm ]
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Where is the crap option

Author:	House [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:27 pm ]
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bluechucky wrote: I think this question is a bit broad. Is it in relation to the match day? if so, I think he is a little on the average side. Even with this crap list, he has demonstrated slow tactical changes and a lack of a real "Plan B" Yep, I reckon you're spot on bc - I would have put fantastic if I didn't have lingering questions on why we seem slow to adapt our game plan at times. I rate him on almost all other decisions, but game day seems to go irretrievably off the script far too often.....

Author:	camel [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:37 pm ]
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D. Average, given the circumstances

Author:	budzy [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:32 pm ]
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Brilliant. In one season he's won a pre-season competition with a bunch of underdone kids and overated hasbeens gaining the club valuable exposure and dollars, whilst also pinpointing the "poison" amongst the playing group and exposing them throughout the season to justify the upcoming purge and culture change that's needed whilst also gaining the best available draft talent to begin the new fairdinkum Pagan era. Brilliant.

Author:	blueslander [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:31 pm ]
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Has any team ever been in the position that they won more pre-season games than they have games in the entire home and away season? We must be close to at least obtaining one record this year. Still, he won, won of the two premierships on offer this year, so you can't complain, there are going to be 14 other teams in the comp that walk away with nothing. however, I must admit I was searching for the crap option too.

Author:	dannyboy [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:01 pm ]
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so productive Mark. what next a poll on the baord? On the office staff? just think this shit doesn't help the club at all. But then i think it'd be stupid to sack the coach too.

Author:	Synbad [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:07 pm ]
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blueslander wrote: Has any team ever been in the position that they won more pre-season games than they have games in the entire home and away season? We must be close to at least obtaining one record this year. Still, he won, won of the two premierships on offer this year, so you can't complain, there are going to be 14 other teams in the comp that walk away with nothing. however, I must admit I was searching for the crap option too. Has any team ever had a leadership taking so much money and giving so little in return? Has any team ever been this short on talent? Penalised what we have been penalised? Has any team ever exceeded all expectations and won the Wizzer and ten games last year with so little??? In fact not only are we spoilt by premierships but we have been spoilt by winning ten games last year.... Were shit!!!!!!

Author:	Wojee [ Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:15 pm ]
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Denis has been OK without performing the miracle that many hoped he could. I don't think anyone could have done a better job given our list and off-field problems, but I reckon most would've done a worse job.

Author:	Big_T [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:07 am ]
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I am still wondering... All of you critics have a lot to say... What would you have been doing better, we have had a 6'1" bloke going up against 6'5" blokes all year, cause we don't have anyone else down back to do the job... We might as well be the Kerang under 16s with the squad we have. Let the man get on with his job and we will be rewarded...

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Author:	gerry atric [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:29 am ]
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Quote: Has any team ever had a leadership taking so much money and giving so little in return? Synbad, what leadership responsibilities does DP and his coaching panel have? We're spending a million bucks on coaches, surely they have some responsibility for the team's performance, surely we expect them to provide leadership, they have to do more than give excuses. We have an ordinary team, playing without any discernible spark, skill, strategy or interest. Players responsible ? - Sure. Coaches responsible? Absolutely. DP is there for 3 more years and he has a huge challenge ahead of him, but we have to have changes to his coaching panel. We have to get someone young in to think strategically, to communicate with the players, to challenge entrenched ideas and do things DP doesn't do well. Players certainly share responsibility for our plight, but I don't know how anyone could excuse the coach responsibility for what has happened over the last few years.

Author:	Synbad [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:50 pm ]
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gerry atric wrote: Quote: Has any team ever had a leadership taking so much money and giving so little in return? Synbad, what leadership responsibilities does DP and his coaching panel have? We're spending a million bucks on coaches, surely they have some responsibility for the team's performance, surely we expect them to provide leadership, they have to do more than give excuses. We have an ordinary team, playing without any discernible spark, skill, strategy or interest. Players responsible ? - Sure. Coaches responsible? Absolutely. DP is there for 3 more years and he has a huge challenge ahead of him, but we have to have changes to his coaching panel. We have to get someone young in to think strategically, to communicate with the players, to challenge entrenched ideas and do things DP doesn't do well. Players certainly share responsibility for our plight, but I don't know how anyone could excuse the coach responsibility for what has happened over the last few years. I think you will see restructuring around the club including the match committee...as well as playing group. But dont think we will make the eight next year with the list we have. We have the WORST list of any club of the last 5 years. Wont be turned around overnight just cos Blue Mark is a tripper.... We will need time.

Author:	BlueMark [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:55 pm ]
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Gotta love the Synbad, slams me for suggesting that changes need to be made in the off field staff, even claims the coaching staff have been re-signed for three years. AND then admits that there will be changes at years end. Calls me a tripper

Author:	SurreyBlue [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:26 pm ]
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Mark, think you'll find Kernahan is the one "match commitee change" Synbad is reffering to.

Author:	BrizzyBlue [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:40 pm ]
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SurreyBlue wrote: Mark, think you'll find Kernahan is the one "match commitee change" Synbad is reffering to. Hey Surrey, Why Sticks?

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:21 pm ]
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BlueMark wrote: Gotta love the Synbad, slams me for suggesting that changes need to be made in the off field staff, even claims the coaching staff have been re-signed for three years. AND then admits that there will be changes at years end. Calls me a tripper You are a tripper because if we bring in more picks to the club the focus in coaching will change from winning(which we cant do) to development. as the dynamics change more so. Thats pretty hard for you to understand though isnt it???