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How high would you go to keep Lance?
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Author:  Cyclonus [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:38 am ]
Post subject:  How high would you go to keep Lance?
Most on here agree that the club shouldn't pay through the nose to keep Lance. That being said however, how high would you go before he was considered too pricey?

I'd go as high as $350K + incentives. And as far incentives go, I'd throw in around $100k worth. It's a substantial enough amount to keep on Lance on his toes, and if he's firing enough to earn the full $100k worth of incentives then it's money well spent as Lance is a matchwinner when on song.

There's no denying Lance has had a very good and consistent year. He has played in every game this year, and has only failed to register double digits in possessions once for the year. A fair effort considering he is swung from end to the other constantly.

If he was re-signed this year, I'd make it clear to him that another year of equal or better quality will net him the captaincy. There's no doubt he's a natural leader on the field, and it could be just the role he needs to get the best out of him.
Author:  Tractor Boy [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:36 am ]
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320k for 2 years. Not a cent more. Let him get himself a marketing (advertising ) deal for himself, maybe something with McDonalds, he could promote all there healthy food and how he still eats there but now only the fat free stuff and how he is Fitnall not Fatnall. :D :D

Seriously $320 is more than enough .
Author:  budzy [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:22 am ]
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I wouldn't keep him.
I'd still trade Lance for (high) draft picks while his currency is high.
Author:  JohnM [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:27 am ]
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Lance played as a floating backman yesterday. By all accounts, one of the easiest positions to play. If he can prove himself as a genuine KPP by season's end, then let's start talking contracts that'll edge 400k.

Problem is though, that Lance's track record suggests a contract renewal would be rewarded by a summer eating and drinking binge followed by a desperate program to lose 8kg of lard (and no, this isn't Lance-bashing. Even his own teammates will say as much).

He has to do plenty more to convince me he's worth really big money.
Author:  dannyboy [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:51 am ]
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If we keep him so be it but I'd trade him if it was me.
Author:  Kaptain Kouta [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:59 am ]
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dannyboy wrote:
If we keep him so be it but I'd trade him if it was me.


I'd go one further, and say if we keep him, so be it, if we trade him, so be it. I think there are issues far more pressing than Lance in the playing list, and those should be addressed first.
Author:  AGRO [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:27 am ]
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How high!!!

Tommi, please tell us how high we would have to go to keep Lance?? :wink: :wink:
Author:  tommi [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:38 am ]
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Ummmm..........

what-EVerrr....are you talking about Munga........?

woop-woooop-wooooooop...........!

kindest regards tommi



but hey.....whilst your asking.........you'd need to be
completly......"off ya nut"......!

if you ask ME.....that is......!
Author:  The Tyrant [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:48 am ]
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I'd go as high as pick 10
Author:  buzzaaaah [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:51 am ]
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JohnM wrote:
Lance played as a floating backman yesterday. By all accounts, one of the easiest positions to play. If he can prove himself as a genuine KPP by season's end,


Actually he didnt. He played on simmonds and Stafford and just ran/zoned off them.
Author:  TheSheik [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:11 am ]
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budzy wrote:
I wouldn't keep him.
I'd still trade Lance for (high) draft picks while his currency is high.


Bingo, we have a winner !! Absolutely correct weight Budzy.
Author:  Stefchook [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:38 am ]
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As good as he was yesterday, he still had about 5 goals kicked on him. At his height and level of athleticism he's going to get regularly exposed, unless he's in a strong side.

Trade him while we can, I think. If he stays, he definitely needs a sizeable 'haircut'.
Author:  billc3 [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:42 am ]
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buzzaaaah wrote:
JohnM wrote:
Lance played as a floating backman yesterday. By all accounts, one of the easiest positions to play. If he can prove himself as a genuine KPP by season's end,


Actually he didnt. He played on simmonds and Stafford and just ran/zoned off them.


This was also correct...He wasn't the EXTRA man in defence.

Basically it gets down to what we need.... If someone wants to give us something we need for Lance... that's all there is to it!
Author:  Aphrodite [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:43 am ]
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Synbad ............

where are you :wink:
Author:  Shakin77 [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:09 pm ]
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Didn't Lance start on Richo?? Then moved onto the tall forward. (Simmonds or Stafford).

Positioned himself 5-10 meters in front of them and read the play better. (With help from the Richmond midfield) It might have given the impression that he was loose.

To be fair Lance has been good for 4 weeks now.

Think 300k is a fair offer, when considering he has been on a good wicket with a low return.
Author:  nightcrawler [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:17 pm ]
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The trouble with Lance is that our forward line is functioning better without him in it, and what he's doing down back is basically cheating.

Playing 10m ahead of your man only works against crap sides without the skill to deliver the ball to your player. When it actually came down to a one on one contest he was exposed for height and atheletcism every time.

Faking it cause you're a smart footballer doesn't change the fact that that's what you're doing. I don't want my CHB faking it.

If he won't stay for 300,000 I would take the best offer available and put the picks to good use. He may go on to have a great career with his new club but at least he won't be frustrating the hell out of me.

Besides, I reckon Campo will probably stay, and Lappin will probably leave. So I'd rather adjust to losing Lappin and Whitnall now, and Campo and Kouta in 1-2 years time, rather than being hit will all four at the same time.
Author:  GWS [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:30 pm ]
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$150K a year base rate and no more. Offer him $300K in incentives on top of that.

If he's worth $450K he'll get it. If he's worth $150K he'll get that.

Time to dangle the carrot (sorry Andrew) in front of Lance. If he thinks he's got something to contribute to the Carlton Football Club then he'll get well remunerated.

He obviously has issues with motivation. If that won't motivate him then nothing will.

Lance's defenders often point out that he's got a football brain and body that's differently structured to other AFL players. I agree. He can have a differently structured contract too.

I'd prefer to see him traded for picks though.
Author:  SurreyBlue [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:37 pm ]
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I think Lance has decided Carlton is not the place for him anymore and more particularly Pagan's game plan does not suit him. :cry:
I'm learning to cope with "LAL" life after lance, so if that is the case, I just hope we get well remunerated, else I am going to be :x .
Author:  BlueMark [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:37 pm ]
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Seems the club is moving on thier stand re Whits, Whits is as well.

Better than 50/50 that he will now stay.

$350 000 sounds about right.
Author:  Bluebernz [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:41 pm ]
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The Tyrant wrote:
I'd go as high as pick 10


Agree. Would definitely swap him for a top 10 pick - no less. The only scenario where I would advocate keeping him is with a view to trading him for a draft pick in next year's bumper crop (albeit there's a risk of his trade value dropping next season).
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