We expect every player that runs out in the Navy Blue to play to the best of their ability every week and to win games. If they do not then they are open to criticism or even to be delisted or traded at seasons end.

So when we ‘play for picks’ we are in effect asking the players not to play to their ability. This of course work well for those advocating to ‘playing for picks’ because they not get a much-cherished priority Pick but they also get to ‘pot’ their least favorite players. For the ‘Play for Picks’ advocates this is called a win/win, but is it really?

There are plenty of arguments put forward by the “Play for Picks’ advocates and I will examine each one.

‘It is good for the club!â€

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L.M 35-06

... Mark you're a glutton for punishment.

How many times are we going to go over the same old ground?

Couldn't this have just been added to one of the other 5 threads arguing the same topic??????

Let's be Geelong

Why do we have to create new thread for an old opinion? - Mods, please merge this into the "The run home to the PP" thread.

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=4162

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No AGRO, BM has stated here http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=100336#100336
that he wishes to be the centre of attention.

i think 16 premierships is a very good culture. i think the fairwell game was evidence of the great culture in the club.

please let this season end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice work Mark - think you could have pushed harder on the 'cheating' and on the 'culture'.

Good luck.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I'm sorry, but I think the whole premise of your argument is a crock of shit.

Nobody at Carlton is "playing for picks", they just either a) aren't very good b) are still developing or c) aren't playing at their best. No cheating - we are going to get a priority pick because we have one of the worst lists in history.

Youngsters can still get better by gaining experience at the highest level even if the team is losing. Nobody is being "taught to lose".

Your final paragraph is the only thing I agree with.

[quote]We expect every player that runs out in the Navy Blue to play to the best of their ability every week and to win games. If they do not then they are open to criticism or even to be delisted or traded at seasons end.

So when we ‘play for picks’ we are in effect asking the players not to play to their ability. This of course work well for those advocating to ‘playing for picks’ because they not get a much-cherished priority Pick but they also get to ‘pot’ their least favorite players. For the ‘Play for Picks’ advocates this is called a win/win, but is it really?

There are plenty of arguments put forward by the “Play for Picks’ advocates and I will examine each one.

‘It is good for the club!â€

Can someone sum this up in one paragraph please....

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[paragraph]Some want us to "play for picks". Others say "never!". I am in the first camp.[/paragraph]

You can't fool me Mrs Caz

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Im smoking my weed in the other camp...

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There are enough thread's on playing for picks...why can't we balance it up and have one against it?

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Would you be happy for us to not win an extra pick Brad????

Seriously now.. have a good think about what youre telling us...

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What took you so long Synbad?

Seriously Brad...it's not that it is an argument against...it is just that it is another thread on the same subject. It has been covered by both camps over and over again.

I might be wrong, but I think advocates of both sides are weary of seeing it...and it could have been joined to an existing thread.[/u]

Synners I am with you! Pass the cone will ya!

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Come on BM, it's an admirable stance, but you haave to succumb to the system. We need the PP.

"Honorable Suicides" aren't even fashionable in Japan anymore. No need for Carlton to try and bring them back into style by winning pointless games now.

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