... Mark you're a glutton for punishment.
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| Author: | BlueMark [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Playing For Picks - An Opinion |
We expect every player that runs out in the Navy Blue to play to the best of their ability every week and to win games. If they do not then they are open to criticism or even to be delisted or traded at seasons end. So when we ‘play for picks’ we are in effect asking the players not to play to their ability. This of course work well for those advocating to ‘playing for picks’ because they not get a much-cherished priority Pick but they also get to ‘pot’ their least favorite players. For the ‘Play for Picks’ advocates this is called a win/win, but is it really? There are plenty of arguments put forward by the “Play for Picks’ advocates and I will examine each one. ‘It is good for the club!†|
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| Author: | SurreyBlue [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:23 pm ] |
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| ... Mark you're a glutton for punishment.
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| Author: | McKaysMistress [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:24 pm ] |
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How many times are we going to go over the same old ground? Couldn't this have just been added to one of the other 5 threads arguing the same topic?????? |
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:25 pm ] |
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Let's be Geelong |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:31 pm ] |
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Why do we have to create new thread for an old opinion? - Mods, please merge this into the "The run home to the PP" thread. http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=4162 |
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:38 pm ] |
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No AGRO, BM has stated here http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=100336#100336 that he wishes to be the centre of attention. |
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| Author: | mightyblues_luke [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:38 pm ] |
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i think 16 premierships is a very good culture. i think the fairwell game was evidence of the great culture in the club. |
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| Author: | Electric Blue [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:42 pm ] |
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please let this season end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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| Author: | dannyboy [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:53 pm ] |
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Nice work Mark - think you could have pushed harder on the 'cheating' and on the 'culture'. Good luck. |
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| Author: | Barney [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:01 pm ] |
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I'm sorry, but I think the whole premise of your argument is a crock of shit. Nobody at Carlton is "playing for picks", they just either a) aren't very good b) are still developing or c) aren't playing at their best. No cheating - we are going to get a priority pick because we have one of the worst lists in history. Youngsters can still get better by gaining experience at the highest level even if the team is losing. Nobody is being "taught to lose". Your final paragraph is the only thing I agree with. |
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| Author: | Locke [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:13 pm ] |
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[quote]We expect every player that runs out in the Navy Blue to play to the best of their ability every week and to win games. If they do not then they are open to criticism or even to be delisted or traded at seasons end. So when we ‘play for picks’ we are in effect asking the players not to play to their ability. This of course work well for those advocating to ‘playing for picks’ because they not get a much-cherished priority Pick but they also get to ‘pot’ their least favorite players. For the ‘Play for Picks’ advocates this is called a win/win, but is it really? There are plenty of arguments put forward by the “Play for Picks’ advocates and I will examine each one. ‘It is good for the club!†|
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| Author: | bluechucky [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:24 pm ] |
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Can someone sum this up in one paragraph please.... |
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:29 pm ] |
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bluechucky wrote: Can someone sum this up in one paragraph please....
[paragraph]Some want us to "play for picks". Others say "never!". I am in the first camp.[/paragraph] |
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| Author: | bluechucky [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:43 pm ] |
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Mrs Caz wrote: bluechucky wrote: Can someone sum this up in one paragraph please.... [paragraph]Some want us to "play for picks". Others say "never!". I am in the first camp.[/paragraph] 
You can't fool me Mrs Caz |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:46 pm ] |
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Im smoking my weed in the other camp... |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:51 pm ] |
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There are enough thread's on playing for picks...why can't we balance it up and have one against it? |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:59 pm ] |
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Would you be happy for us to not win an extra pick Brad???? 
Seriously now.. have a good think about what youre telling us... |
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| Author: | Mrs Caz [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:02 pm ] |
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What took you so long Synbad?
Seriously Brad...it's not that it is an argument against...it is just that it is another thread on the same subject. It has been covered by both camps over and over again. I might be wrong, but I think advocates of both sides are weary of seeing it...and it could have been joined to an existing thread.[/u] |
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| Author: | Big_T [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:13 pm ] |
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Synbad wrote: Im smoking my weed in the other camp...
Synners I am with you! Pass the cone will ya!  
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| Author: | Cyclonus [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:47 pm ] |
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Come on BM, it's an admirable stance, but you haave to succumb to the system. We need the PP. "Honorable Suicides" aren't even fashionable in Japan anymore. No need for Carlton to try and bring them back into style by winning pointless games now. |
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