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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:27 am 
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Before 2003 it is very difficult to find much information about the Rising Star Award. In particular nominations for Carlton players.

The only one I have record of before 2003 is:

1995, Round 2, Scott Camporeale.

Does anyone out there know of any other Carlton Players who have received Rising Star nominations pre 2003?

Thanks in advance. :-D

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Brett Backwell, Ryan Houlihan (Rd 20 2000) from memory..
cant remember Backwells, I think Rd 3 1998


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Jarusa wrote:
Before 2003 it is very difficult to find much information about the Rising Star Award. In particular nominations for Carlton players.

The only one I have record of before 2003 is:

1995, Round 2, Scott Camporeale.

Does anyone out there know of any other Carlton Players who have received Rising Star nominations pre 2003?

Thanks in advance. :-D


Karl Norman has been nominated before.


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The List:

Ang Christou, Round 18, 1993
James Cook, Round 6, 1994
Troy Bond, Round 18, 1994
Scott Camporeale, Round 2, 1995
Adrian Whitehead, Round 15, 1995
Lance Whitnall, Round 1, 1997
Darren Hulme, Round 10, 1998
Kris Massie, Round 20, 1998
Brett Backwell, Round 3, 1999
Ryan Houlihan, Round 20, 2000
Trent Sporn, Round 3, 2003
Jarrad Waite, Round 10, 2003
Brad Fisher, Round 12, 2003
Andrew Walker, Round 5, 2004
Karl Norman, Round 13, 2004

And this year obviously Simpson and Bentick in Rounds 18 and 20 respectively.

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I am pretty sure Brett Aitken won the "Rookie of the Year" award or whatever it was called back then. This might have been 1988ish (?) - at least the year that cowardly prick Alistair Clarkson whacked him from behind in that infamous London game (the Battle of Britain they called it).


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Ponkstar wrote:
I am pretty sure Brett Aitken won the "Rookie of the Year" award or whatever it was called back then. This might have been 1988ish (?) - at least the year that cowardly prick Alistair Clarkson whacked him from behind in that infamous London game (the Battle of Britain they called it).



Brett Aitken is not a bad cyclist but Ian Aitken was the better footballer. :wink:

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You guys are legends, thanks very much!

Some interesting names on that list.

Our strike rate in the 2000's looks like it might be better than the 90's.

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Jarusa wrote:
You guys are legends, thanks very much!

Some interesting names on that list.

Our strike rate in the 2000's looks like it might be better than the 90's.


94-99 (6 years) 8 nominations
00-05 (6 years) 8 nominations

I know you can get stats to say many things jarusa but... :wink:


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GWS wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
You guys are legends, thanks very much!

Some interesting names on that list.

Our strike rate in the 2000's looks like it might be better than the 90's.


94-99 (6 years) 8 nominations
00-05 (6 years) 8 nominations

I know you can get stats to say many things jarusa but... :wink:


:lol:

what I meant (but neglected to say :wink: ) was the strike rate for the nominations actually becoming good players looks more promising. But even that is probably wrong. :lol:

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AGRO wrote:
Ponkstar wrote:
I am pretty sure Brett Aitken won the "Rookie of the Year" award or whatever it was called back then. This might have been 1988ish (?) - at least the year that cowardly prick Alistair Clarkson whacked him from behind in that infamous London game (the Battle of Britain they called it).



Brett Aitken is not a bad cyclist but Ian Aitken was the better footballer. :wink:


Indeed Agro, indeed :oops:


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AGRO wrote:
Ponkstar wrote:
I am pretty sure Brett Aitken won the "Rookie of the Year" award or whatever it was called back then. This might have been 1988ish (?) - at least the year that cowardly prick Alistair Clarkson whacked him from behind in that infamous London game (the Battle of Britain they called it).



Brett Aitken is not a bad cyclist but Ian Aitken was the better footballer. :wink:


Ian Aitken he was pretty good for a couple of years, dont know what happened to him didn't he end up going to St Kilda.

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Our strike rate might be better than it was in the 80/90s but the names on our list dont contain people like Silvagni, Kernahan, Bradley, Williams, Rhys Jones etc....

So no cigar....!!!...

Love how things can be twisted to make things look better but theyre not when you really get down to things.

Look find me players of the calibre of those guys and you might be staring at a premiership in the face.

Some of the rising stars mentioned over the last couple of years will probably not be on our list next year...
Sobering huh??

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Rambo Stallone wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Ponkstar wrote:
I am pretty sure Brett Aitken won the "Rookie of the Year" award or whatever it was called back then. This might have been 1988ish (?) - at least the year that cowardly prick Alistair Clarkson whacked him from behind in that infamous London game (the Battle of Britain they called it).



Brett Aitken is not a bad cyclist but Ian Aitken was the better footballer. :wink:


Ian Aitken he was pretty good for a couple of years, dont know what happened to him didn't he end up going to St Kilda.


Alistair Clarkson + Battle of Brittain + broken jaw.

Aitken was never the same player after that.

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Aitken was a premiership player but he was not much chop before that either.

What i dont understand is with all that cheque book recruiting we did.. and no real restraints how come we usually had a heap of duds in our team.Why bother taking Denis Collins or Rod Galt or Reid from other clubs???

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Synbad wrote:
Aitken was a premiership player but he was not much chop before that either.

What i dont understand is with all that cheque book recruiting we did.. and no real restraints how come we usually had a heap of duds in our team.Why bother taking Denis Collins or Rod Galt or Reid from other clubs???


Would that be because the whole cheque book football thing was a bit of a furphy?

Apart from the Kernahan/Motley/Bradley/Dorotich raid, what other specific examples of chequebook footy are there?

Barrassi I guess is one. Greg Williams another... I'm starting to struggle after that....

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Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Aitken was a premiership player but he was not much chop before that either.

What i dont understand is with all that cheque book recruiting we did.. and no real restraints how come we usually had a heap of duds in our team.Why bother taking Denis Collins or Rod Galt or Reid from other clubs???


Would that be because the whole cheque book football thing was a bit of a furphy?

Apart from the Kernahan/Motley/Bradley/Dorotich raid, what other specific examples of chequebook footy are there?

Barrassi I guess is one. Greg Williams another... I'm starting to struggle after that....


Hows Johnny Plattens car from te Carlton football club sound.???.. by the way he kept it.... BASTARD!!! :twisted:

..........and David Rhys Jones???

Howabout when Robert Menzies organised for Jezzza to by pass North and come to Carlton???

You have no clue do you???

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Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Aitken was a premiership player but he was not much chop before that either.

What i dont understand is with all that cheque book recruiting we did.. and no real restraints how come we usually had a heap of duds in our team.Why bother taking Denis Collins or Rod Galt or Reid from other clubs???


Would that be because the whole cheque book football thing was a bit of a furphy?

Apart from the Kernahan/Motley/Bradley/Dorotich raid, what other specific examples of chequebook footy are there?

Barrassi I guess is one. Greg Williams another... I'm starting to struggle after that....


Hows Johnny Plattens car from te Carlton football club sound.???.. by the way he kept it.... BASTARD!!! :twisted:

..........and David Rhys Jones???

Howabout when Robert Menzies organised for Jezzza to by pass North and come to Carlton???

You have no clue do you???


Ease up big fella. I was only asking the question.

You need to lay off the caffeine.

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Did i forget Val Perovic and Frank Marchesani??
Or Barry Mitchell being tempted away from the Swans....

Oh all that is so long ago its a haze...

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Did i forget Val Perovic and Frank Marchesani??
Or Barry Mitchell being tempted away from the Swans....

Oh all that is so long ago its a haze...


Yeah good points. Although Barry Mitchell did go to Collingwood from the Swans.

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Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Aitken was a premiership player but he was not much chop before that either.

What i dont understand is with all that cheque book recruiting we did.. and no real restraints how come we usually had a heap of duds in our team.Why bother taking Denis Collins or Rod Galt or Reid from other clubs???


Would that be because the whole cheque book football thing was a bit of a furphy?

Apart from the Kernahan/Motley/Bradley/Dorotich raid, what other specific examples of chequebook footy are there?

Barrassi I guess is one. Greg Williams another... I'm starting to struggle after that....


Hows Johnny Plattens car from te Carlton football club sound.???.. by the way he kept it.... BASTARD!!! :twisted:

..........and David Rhys Jones???

Howabout when Robert Menzies organised for Jezzza to by pass North and come to Carlton???

You have no clue do you???


Ease up big fella. I was only asking the question.

You need to lay off the caffeine.


No you actually called it a furphy... :wink:

It wasnt...its us using the system of the time better than everybody else.. so we were always one step ahead.

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