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AGM & Board Election - Why March 2006?
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Author:  Speedy [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:45 am ]
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In 2002 whne the Collins board came to power we were told that the AGM and elections needed to be postponed until the following March so that a full audit of the clubs finances could be prepared. Fair enough.

Why then has it remained at this time instead of returning to is right and proper time of December?

Every other club hold their elections at the end of the year in which the season was played - not the start of the next. It allows the members to vote whilst memories are fresh and it gives time for new appointees to have an impact prior to the next season starting.

Holding our AGM and elections in the week prior to the next season starting (last year - after the Wizz cup final), is ludicrous - an insult to the members.

Why do we continue with this? Because it is a way yet again of the Collins board holding onto power. They figure that by holding it in the shadow of the new season when everyone is full of hope and expectation, that it will give them a greater chance of winning should someone stand against them. The failures of the prior year will have dimmed in the glow of the expectations of the new players and new year ahead.

It is a cynical ploy, and yet again the Collins Board is showing it is prepared to treat Carlton members with contempt. It is a slight of hand in football politics worthy of Elliot at his best. The more this board does and does not do - the fuzzier the distinction between the way both boards treat their members. (I am not saying this board is corrupt like the old one - it just treats members with contempt).

This will be further exacerbated by the departures of Hunter and MacKay - the two directors who genuinely care for members and true democtratic process.

Come on Collo - while you have the chance - bring the AGM and any election that may happen forward to December while you still can. We can see what you are doing - we the members are not fools.
Author:  Wild Blue Yonder [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:13 am ]
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Maybe the elections are for 12 month terms.
Author:  Speedy [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:14 am ]
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No - they are for the period until the next AGM - whenever the board chooses to hold it. Usually 12 months, but not necessarily. If we brought it back to December, after the first year it would return to 12 months - totally accepteble under our constitution.
Author:  Wild Blue Yonder [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:18 am ]
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cycle.


Hey I'm only trying to @#$%&! help. At least I responded.
Author:  Speedy [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:22 am ]
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True - thanks. I have amended my response to your question.
Author:  Sydney Blue [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:55 am ]
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Wont be long Speedy just hang in there
Author:  budzy [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:00 pm ]
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:lol:

Collo = shifty
Author:  malbi [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:01 pm ]
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Speedy, I agree with you. They were also going to change the constitution so that all members were voting members. However, I don't believe that they have done that either.
Author:  camel [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:09 pm ]
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malleefowl wrote:
Speedy, I agree with you. They were also going to change the constitution so that all members were voting members. However, I don't believe that they have done that either.


Don't recall hearing confirmation of this either. :|
Author:  Synbad [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:29 pm ]
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Another worrying trend are rumours that Collo is recruiting members by invitation onto the board.
In my opinion elections MUST be held and board members must have a mandate from the members ...

No more boys clubs at the Carlton Football Club!!!!

No wonder its becoming abit like amateur hour....
Author:  SurreyBlue [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:47 am ]
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I kept telling you Synbad that Collo is like Elliott only with financial nous (probably haven't spelt that right), but you just wouldn't listen. :-D
Author:  Headplant [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:07 pm ]
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Candidates only need to be "elected" (by an actual vote count) if there are more candidates than positions.

Similar things happen in most sporting clubs where often people need to be persuaded/invited to stand for committee/board.
Author:  Cammo [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:14 pm ]
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Do you think that given the numbers we have online, we could get someone on the board that represents the online community, or at least in theory?
Author:  Wild Blue Yonder [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:52 am ]
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Jesus save the Carlton Footy Club if that ever happened Cammo.
Author:  Cammo [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:19 am ]
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As stupid as it sounds, I'm contemplating throwing my hat in the ring here.....
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:40 am ]
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Imagine the online election and campaign just for us to elect our candidate.
Author:  BlueMark [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:19 am ]
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I reckon Synners should stand. I'd vote for him no problem.
Author:  gerry atric [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:22 am ]
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I kept telling you Synbad that Collo is like Elliott only with financial nous (probably haven't spelt that right), but you just wouldn't listen.


Not sure if that's true SB, but financial nous, or lack of it, got us into the mess we are in, so it's a pretty important quality in a club president, and can send the club out of existence when you don't have it. Still Elliott didn't play favourites he not only ruined our club financially, but also several companies and himself.
Author:  mikkey [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:34 pm ]
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gerry atric wrote:
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I kept telling you Synbad that Collo is like Elliott only with financial nous (probably haven't spelt that right), but you just wouldn't listen.


Not sure if that's true SB, but financial nous, or lack of it, got us into the mess we are in, so it's a pretty important quality in a club president, and can send the club out of existence when you don't have it. Still Elliott didn't play favourites he not only ruined our club financially, but also several companies and himself.


1) The Elliott "rule" mnetioned earlier in the thread was that financial members had to separately advise the club in writing that they wanted to be voting members. The new Board (as promised) did remove this clause right away so that all financial members can rock up to the AGM and vote.

2) it is insulting to compare Collo to Elliott - Eliott is a crook - Collo is not. Like him or not - and you do not need to agree with him at the moment -but without Collo the club might have folded. Thankless people around here - easy to type crap when you sit behing a keyboard. try to help the club instead or at least attend the meetings.
Author:  phoenix johnson [ Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:13 pm ]
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Good post, Mik.
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