TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Mick Stinear

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=104467

Have a look at some of the names on this list!

You have to be joking don't you? Look - nothing against the kid...but he didn't have what it takes. Really a poor mans Jimmy Plunkett and nothing at all like Luke Blackwell. Heart the size of Phar Lap yes...but that was a pretty no brainer decision by Denis if you ask me.

2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread

Why not now.
A lot of regular training watchers were disappointed Nick wasnt retained.
My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years.

Understandably the club wanted to retain Batson and Aisake as long term ruck options and Jesse Smith was an obvious so Nick was unlucky.

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread

My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years.

Blue Vain wrote:

My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years.

More evidence of the stupidity of the AFL and their crap laws :roll:

(if true

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Author:	phoenix johnson [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:31 pm ]
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This thread was prompted from some comments about Stinear in the Kouta/captaincy thread. Why wasn't he retained when Pagan came to Carlton? By all reports he was killing it in the VFL for the Bullants and was looking cherry ripe for elevation on to the senior list. So what went wrong?

Author:	Mrs Caz [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:32 pm ]
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I love you PJ.

Author:	molsey [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:37 pm ]
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http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=104467 Have a look at some of the names on this list! Ahh, Stinear, very unlucky - real efforts, real skill, I just couldn't work that one out.... But hell I thought Tony Lynn was a star.

Author:	Mrs Caz [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:52 pm ]
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molsey wrote: http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=104467 Have a look at some of the names on this list! Particularly this one: Michael Stinear: Stinear had a purple patch mid season with a number of strong, high-possession games in the midfield before injury limited his impact. Stinear is a hard and fair player, always keen to make the tackles and always keen for the hard-ball get. Importantly, his possessions are high quality. Rating: 6.5/10. What would we like to see: Elevation.

Author:	Ponkstar [ Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:29 pm ]
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Would it be fair to suggest that Stinear = Blackwell in terms of skill, pace, size, attributes etc? Just interesting to think we've probably swapped like-for-like in those two.

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Author:	DocSherrin III [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:00 am ]
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You have to be joking don't you? Look - nothing against the kid...but he didn't have what it takes. Really a poor mans Jimmy Plunkett and nothing at all like Luke Blackwell. Heart the size of Phar Lap yes...but that was a pretty no brainer decision by Denis if you ask me.

Author:	Mrs Caz [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:47 am ]
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Yeah??? Well who asked you??? Oh, I guess pj and ponky did....

Author:	phoenix johnson [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:50 am ]
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote: You have to be joking don't you? Look - nothing against the kid...but he didn't have what it takes. Really a poor mans Jimmy Plunkett and nothing at all like Luke Blackwell. Heart the size of Phar Lap yes...but that was a pretty no brainer decision by Denis if you ask me. So why the big raps from everyone else?

Author:	Ponkstar [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:12 am ]
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Stinear was at LEAST a RICH man's Jimmy Plunkett. Not sure what that means though..... Just asking the question. Only seen both of them a couple of times on the telly and they seemed to be similar players for mine.

Author:	bax [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:13 pm ]
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I'd watch this kid in the VFL and couldn't wait for him to be promoted to the Seniors. Bad decision to let him go IMO - esecially considering players like Wiggins are still on the list.

Author:	Puck Knuckle [ Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:25 pm ]
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Why are beating themselves up over a 1 year rookie? he's gone, hasn't been picked up by anyone else and we probably made the right decision. Make that definitely.

Author:	DocSherrin III [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:45 am ]
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2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread...but as someone mentioned Wiggo - did anyone notice his sticky hands in the last month of footy. His marking was exceptional. Now he has a heart the size of Phar Lap....not our best player, but at only 23 can continue his improvement as he's shown.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:42 pm ]
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote: 2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread Why not now. A lot of regular training watchers were disappointed Nick wasnt retained. My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years. Understandably the club wanted to retain Batson and Aisake as long term ruck options and Jesse Smith was an obvious so Nick was unlucky.

Author:	budzy [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:57 pm ]
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Blue Vain wrote: Dr.SHERRIN wrote: 2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread Why not now. A lot of regular training watchers were disappointed Nick wasnt retained. My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years. Understandably the club wanted to retain Batson and Aisake as long term ruck options and Jesse Smith was an obvious so Nick was unlucky. Can Becker be (re)drafted in this years rookie draft?

Author:	MadDogHulme27 [ Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:34 pm ]
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Micky Stinnear actually had a bag bone growth on his hip which many people didnt know about when he was at the Blues. Restricted his movement and pace a fair bit appearently.Now playing up in QLD i think. Still only 21

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Author:	The Tyrant [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:19 pm ]
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Blue Vain wrote: Dr.SHERRIN wrote: 2 years from now someone will post a "Why did we let Nick Becker go" thread Why not now. A lot of regular training watchers were disappointed Nick wasnt retained. My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years. Understandably the club wanted to retain Batson and Aisake as long term ruck options and Jesse Smith was an obvious so Nick was unlucky. Another reason to sack Prender and Bannister, to elevate Smith and keep Becker

Author:	Megaman [ Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:49 pm ]
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Blue Vain wrote: My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years. More evidence of the stupidity of the AFL and their crap laws (if true )

Author:	Chitty's Finger [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:56 pm ]
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Megaman wrote: Blue Vain wrote: My understanding is the club wanted to retain Nick but I believe AFL rules state that clubs can only retain 3 rookies for consecutive years. More evidence of the stupidity of the AFL and their crap laws (if true ) Doesnt stop us re-rookiing him if he's any good. I dont think we'll re-rookie him.