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No mention of Bartel either, so that story must have been a Furphy.

When Campo held out on Carlton I get the feeling he thought he'd have other clubs bashing down the door to get him. That sort of overestimation of one's value tends to happen to people who've been massively overpaid over a long period of time.

Funnily enough the only person who wanted him was some psycho ex-plumber.

By then it was too late to go back and he's had to accept an offer in the ball park of Carlton's.

That said, I don't believe it's ever just about the money; Campo quite obviously doesn't get along with Denis and the new administration. As long as that's the case (and hopefully longer) he should just piss off and die quietly in that filthy red and black hole. It's hard enough running a footy team as it is. When you've got shitty little turds like Campo running around it's next to impossible.

Cue Surrey Blue/Sydney Blue/anyone who wants to defend the little wanker... :wink:

is there anyone who gets on with Pagan and the current administration?

GWS wrote:

Here I am

Just interested to know Gerry did you bag Jezza when he left for the saints or Mcconville or Sheldon or Williams when we dumped him and went to Geelong or for that matter were you bagging Pagan when we dumped him at the age of 18 . Even Barrass was dumped . Because it seems with you that you seem to want to bag everyone that leaves the club if they have a disagreement with the coach or the administration. Will you be bagging Pagan and calling him a money hungry turd when we dump him in couple of years time.

Look, Campo didnt leave because he didnt like Pagan...
If he wasnt interested in money as he is saying to everybody.. why didnt he leave last year????

Can someone dig up that link where his manager says "Campo wants to be a one club player and we will come to an agreement"?

Thats just a couple of months before the end of the season.

Campo is a greedy little turd who has forged a career and a comfortable living OVER MANY YEARS on the backs of others... nothing more , nothing less.

"I always wanted to be a one-club player when I first came over and never thought I would get to this point in my career, but you have to enjoy what you are doing and I think I need a fresh start and refresh myself mentally."

GWS wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

GWS wrote:

There you go making shit up again Sydney.

Like Moshe I've never bagged a player for leaving. If you look back through my posts you'll even find me defending Hamill on numerous occasions. You really are going to have to get better at this stuff.

Also like Moshe my reasons for bagging Campo now are the same as it was for bagging him for the last few years.

A. The way he plays the game shits me

B. He's always pointing to others to pick up his man

C. He's a whinging bitch

D. He takes dives (see Hawthorn game at CHB this year)

This making stuff up about what others have posted is going to have to stop if you're going to maintain any credbility in here Sydney.

Ooops!

Too late. :wink:

PS: Who the F@%&#!'s Gerry?

By the way Campo was good enough to play 200 + games for our club and pick up nearly 400+ pos. a year plus he would have a dip I dont think I've seen a player cop as many belts around the head than him.

Sydney Blue wrote:

For the past 3 seasons he has maintained his 20 possession a game average, by:

- playing on from kicking out (at least 5 times per game).

- running around the back of our junior players on the half back line and demanding the "cheapie" handball. (at least another 5 times per game).

As for copping belts around the head - if he hung around another year he would have been a bit like Douglas C. Neidemeyer and copped a few from his own team mates. :roll:

Author:	Ockham's Razor [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:45 am ]
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given the $ that he is asking the Bombers for maybe it isn't just about the money for Camporeale! http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news ... 18455.html I'm glad he is going & we are better without him but the issue is obviously more complex than simply the money.

Author:	camel [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:53 am ]
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No mention of Bartel either, so that story must have been a Furphy.

Author:	bluehammer [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:00 am ]
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camelboy wrote: No mention of Bartel either, so that story must have been a Furphy. Not Justin Furphy, please.

Author:	BlueWorld [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:06 am ]
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Pies pull out of chase for Camporeale. Now who would that have pleased?

Author:	Kouta [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:22 am ]
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Synbad

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Author:	GWS [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:58 pm ]
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When Campo held out on Carlton I get the feeling he thought he'd have other clubs bashing down the door to get him. That sort of overestimation of one's value tends to happen to people who've been massively overpaid over a long period of time. Funnily enough the only person who wanted him was some psycho ex-plumber. By then it was too late to go back and he's had to accept an offer in the ball park of Carlton's. That said, I don't believe it's ever just about the money; Campo quite obviously doesn't get along with Denis and the new administration. As long as that's the case (and hopefully longer) he should just piss off and die quietly in that filthy red and black hole. It's hard enough running a footy team as it is. When you've got shitty little turds like Campo running around it's next to impossible. Cue Surrey Blue/Sydney Blue/anyone who wants to defend the little wanker...

Author:	malbi [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:20 pm ]
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I don't like what Campo has done to the club, but is there anyone who gets on with Pagan and the current administration?

Author:	Synbad [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:07 pm ]
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Look, Campo didnt leave because he didnt like Pagan... If he wasnt interested in money as he is saying to everybody.. why didnt he leave last year???? Can someone dig up that link where his manager says "Campo wants to be a one club player and we will come to an agreement"? Thats just a couple of months before the end of the season. Campo is a greedy little turd who has forged a career and a comfortable living OVER MANY YEARS on the backs of others... nothing more , nothing less.

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:00 pm ]
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GWS wrote: When Campo held out on Carlton I get the feeling he thought he'd have other clubs bashing down the door to get him. That sort of overestimation of one's value tends to happen to people who've been massively overpaid over a long period of time. Funnily enough the only person who wanted him was some psycho ex-plumber. By then it was too late to go back and he's had to accept an offer in the ball park of Carlton's. That said, I don't believe it's ever just about the money; Campo quite obviously doesn't get along with Denis and the new administration. As long as that's the case (and hopefully longer) he should just piss off and die quietly in that filthy red and black hole. It's hard enough running a footy team as it is. When you've got shitty little turds like Campo running around it's next to impossible. Cue Surrey Blue/Sydney Blue/anyone who wants to defend the little wanker... Here I am Just interested to know Gerry did you bag Jezza when he left for the saints or Mcconville or Sheldon or Williams when we dumped him and went to Geelong or for that matter were you bagging Pagan when we dumped him at the age of 18 . Even Barrass was dumped . Because it seems with you that you seem to want to bag everyone that leaves the club if they have a disagreement with the coach or the administration. Will you be bagging Pagan and calling him a money hungry turd when we dump him in couple of years time.

Author:	James Bond [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:46 pm ]
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malleefowl wrote: is there anyone who gets on with Pagan and the current administration? I don't have a problem with them

Author:	moshe25 [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:22 pm ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: GWS wrote: When Campo held out on Carlton I get the feeling he thought he'd have other clubs bashing down the door to get him. That sort of overestimation of one's value tends to happen to people who've been massively overpaid over a long period of time. Funnily enough the only person who wanted him was some psycho ex-plumber. By then it was too late to go back and he's had to accept an offer in the ball park of Carlton's. That said, I don't believe it's ever just about the money; Campo quite obviously doesn't get along with Denis and the new administration. As long as that's the case (and hopefully longer) he should just piss off and die quietly in that filthy red and black hole. It's hard enough running a footy team as it is. When you've got shitty little turds like Campo running around it's next to impossible. Cue Surrey Blue/Sydney Blue/anyone who wants to defend the little wanker... Here I am Just interested to know Gerry did you bag Jezza when he left for the saints or Mcconville or Sheldon or Williams when we dumped him and went to Geelong or for that matter were you bagging Pagan when we dumped him at the age of 18 . Even Barrass was dumped . Because it seems with you that you seem to want to bag everyone that leaves the club if they have a disagreement with the coach or the administration. Will you be bagging Pagan and calling him a money hungry turd when we dump him in couple of years time. Just out of interest, I've never bagged any player for leaving, INCLUDING Hamil. I bag Campo, because he's.....er...well.. because he's....Campo. (I did think that Diesel leaving the Swans was a bit crass though....)

Author:	Kouta [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:30 pm ]
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Synbad wrote: Look, Campo didnt leave because he didnt like Pagan... If he wasnt interested in money as he is saying to everybody.. why didnt he leave last year???? Can someone dig up that link where his manager says "Campo wants to be a one club player and we will come to an agreement"? Thats just a couple of months before the end of the season. Campo is a greedy little turd who has forged a career and a comfortable living OVER MANY YEARS on the backs of others... nothing more , nothing less. I don't think this is the article your looking for, but it still has the magic words "I always wanted to be a one club player". [url=http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/10/21/1129775961066.html] Campo disappointed, not Blue - I just remembered what a piece of crap this article was[/url] Quote: "I always wanted to be a one-club player when I first came over and never thought I would get to this point in my career, but you have to enjoy what you are doing and I think I need a fresh start and refresh myself mentally."

Author:	GWS [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:47 pm ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: GWS wrote: When Campo held out on Carlton I get the feeling he thought he'd have other clubs bashing down the door to get him. That sort of overestimation of one's value tends to happen to people who've been massively overpaid over a long period of time. Funnily enough the only person who wanted him was some psycho ex-plumber. By then it was too late to go back and he's had to accept an offer in the ball park of Carlton's. That said, I don't believe it's ever just about the money; Campo quite obviously doesn't get along with Denis and the new administration. As long as that's the case (and hopefully longer) he should just piss off and die quietly in that filthy red and black hole. It's hard enough running a footy team as it is. When you've got shitty little turds like Campo running around it's next to impossible. Cue Surrey Blue/Sydney Blue/anyone who wants to defend the little wanker... Here I am Just interested to know Gerry did you bag Jezza when he left for the saints or Mcconville or Sheldon or Williams when we dumped him and went to Geelong or for that matter were you bagging Pagan when we dumped him at the age of 18 . Even Barrass was dumped . Because it seems with you that you seem to want to bag everyone that leaves the club if they have a disagreement with the coach or the administration. Will you be bagging Pagan and calling him a money hungry turd when we dump him in couple of years time. There you go making shit up again Sydney. Like Moshe I've never bagged a player for leaving. If you look back through my posts you'll even find me defending Hamill on numerous occasions. You really are going to have to get better at this stuff. Also like Moshe my reasons for bagging Campo now are the same as it was for bagging him for the last few years. A. The way he plays the game shits me B. He's always pointing to others to pick up his man C. He's a whinging bitch D. He takes dives (see Hawthorn game at CHB this year) This making stuff up about what others have posted is going to have to stop if you're going to maintain any credbility in here Sydney. Ooops! Too late. PS: Who the @#$%&!'s Gerry?

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:55 pm ]
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GWS wrote: Sydney Blue wrote: GWS wrote: When Campo held out on Carlton I get the feeling he thought he'd have other clubs bashing down the door to get him. That sort of overestimation of one's value tends to happen to people who've been massively overpaid over a long period of time. Funnily enough the only person who wanted him was some psycho ex-plumber. By then it was too late to go back and he's had to accept an offer in the ball park of Carlton's. That said, I don't believe it's ever just about the money; Campo quite obviously doesn't get along with Denis and the new administration. As long as that's the case (and hopefully longer) he should just piss off and die quietly in that filthy red and black hole. It's hard enough running a footy team as it is. When you've got shitty little turds like Campo running around it's next to impossible. Cue Surrey Blue/Sydney Blue/anyone who wants to defend the little wanker... Here I am Just interested to know Gerry did you bag Jezza when he left for the saints or Mcconville or Sheldon or Williams when we dumped him and went to Geelong or for that matter were you bagging Pagan when we dumped him at the age of 18 . Even Barrass was dumped . Because it seems with you that you seem to want to bag everyone that leaves the club if they have a disagreement with the coach or the administration. Will you be bagging Pagan and calling him a money hungry turd when we dump him in couple of years time. There you go making shit up again Sydney. Like Moshe I've never bagged a player for leaving. If you look back through my posts you'll even find me defending Hamill on numerous occasions. You really are going to have to get better at this stuff. Also like Moshe my reasons for bagging Campo now are the same as it was for bagging him for the last few years. A. The way he plays the game shits me B. He's always pointing to others to pick up his man C. He's a whinging bitch D. He takes dives (see Hawthorn game at CHB this year) This making stuff up about what others have posted is going to have to stop if you're going to maintain any credbility in here Sydney. Ooops! Too late. PS: Who the F@%&#!'s Gerry? Are you sure you have never bagged Beaumont- Allen or Mckernan and I am sure there was a post about young Karl Norman a month or two back. By the way Campo was good enough to play 200 + games for our club and pick up nearly 400+ pos. a year plus he would have a dip I dont think I've seen a player cop as many belts around the head than him. Just let him go and not have all these sour grape post about Campo's so called attitude and money hungry ways. He was an AA player in 2000 and like many others in our team has struggled over the past 4-5 years . Struggled with lack of support and struggled adapting to DP . And the ABC and D above could be pointed at a few others aswell. Thorton could fall into the BC catergory at the age of 22 And Fevola plays for the free kick by dropping his head in nearly ever marking contest . Dont see as a reason to hate them though. I say good luck to him and he may even do what Allen and murphy did and play finals before he retires

Author:	Synbad [ Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:14 am ]
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Campo looked slow last year.. and there is no reaqson why Chambers cant run past ro collect a handball and diustrubute it . Completely unaccountable. He had become the master at pretending to be busy. He reminds me of 'busboys' in clubs who walk past glasses and ashtrays not picking them up or cleaning them allowing somebody else to have to do it. If you look at his stats he looks like he has put in... but if you take a close look at him .. he is one hell of a lazy, bludging cheat. On top of that he has a very weak character and is driven only for himself. We wont miss him one iota. I seriously cant believe how he fools people. But glad Sheedy fell for it. Ps his distrubution was shit. He is no Hodge... And his crab ways constantly had our young defenders under the pump. Remember the Walker game in Adelaide? Or when he called for the ball against Essendon*... from Carazzo.? He was a cheat that just kept putting our young defenders under the pump because he would just give it off to collect it again... and we would become unstuck! Get him away from our kids!! He was one man confidence wrecking ball!!!

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Author:	sandramd [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:09 pm ]
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Ditto GWS agree to all your points.

Author:	AGRO [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:52 pm ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: By the way Campo was good enough to play 200 + games for our club and pick up nearly 400+ pos. a year plus he would have a dip I dont think I've seen a player cop as many belts around the head than him. For the past 3 seasons he has maintained his 20 possession a game average, by: - playing on from kicking out (at least 5 times per game). - running around the back of our junior players on the half back line and demanding the "cheapie" handball. (at least another 5 times per game). As for copping belts around the head - if he hung around another year he would have been a bit like Douglas C. Neidemeyer and copped a few from his own team mates.

Author:	Synbad [ Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:01 pm ]
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Juzz, no thats not the link. It was prior to that. ill dig it up on the weekend. That one there is backpedal

Author:	Blues2005 [ Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:42 am ]
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AGRO wrote: Sydney Blue wrote: By the way Campo was good enough to play 200 + games for our club and pick up nearly 400+ pos. a year plus he would have a dip I dont think I've seen a player cop as many belts around the head than him. For the past 3 seasons he has maintained his 20 possession a game average, by: - playing on from kicking out (at least 5 times per game). - running around the back of our junior players on the half back line and demanding the "cheapie" handball. (at least another 5 times per game). As for copping belts around the head - if he hung around another year he would have been a bit like Douglas C. Neidemeyer and copped a few from his own team mates. So what Agro, what we needed was MORE players getting as many touches as Campo, if we had more players, if some of our other players who have been at the club a while now could get the ball as much as Campo then I'd venture to say we might not be in as much trouble? You know it too Agro, we need more players averaging 20 possessions a game, and we needed more to help out Campo, Stevens, Scotland etc. Plenty of players have had chances but nobody has been able over a long period of time to get as much of the footy as Campo and people easily forget that! But just on your points, and I keep repeating it: 1.) Nobody was ever forced to give the handball to Campo for the 'easy' possession. Campo provided an option and more often than not, was used, but then I would argue that this is perfectly fine because; 2.) Campo whether or not you liked him was one of our best kicks of the footy! Surely it's not illogical to suggest that you want your best kicks of the footy getting more of the footy in the first place? And on kickouts, perhaps you should watch Nick Stevens and how many times he kicks to himself and plays on hence getting the same "cheap" possession you accuse Campo of getting. Sydney Blue is 100% right, anyone who plays 200 games for the club, makes the AA team, finds the ball as consistently as Campo whilst being tagged and scragged and belted every week in both good and poor sides etc etc deserves respect, it's that simple. Yes his departure was messy but nothing can take away from the fact that he was great for the Carlton FC.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:21 am ]
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I agree Blues2005, the role of the reciever is integral to the structure of most sides. James Hird gets 3/4 of his possessions calling for the handball off teammates and Bradley was the master of it. It works well when you have a dominant ball winner ie. Ratten or Williams who can win the contested ball and feed it out. Unfortunately for Campo, in the past few years we are losing in the middle and we need on ballers who can play accountable football. That's where he has been found wanting. Campo can still be a very good footballer in a quality side but we're still quite a bit off that. As a player we will miss some of his abilities but as a person, there's a bit of baggage that's better off elsewhere.