TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Lets be a bit positive for 2006 before the season starts

All i can say is cant wait for the season to start and cant come back more quickly on that note its funny that even before the season starts we are already been pretty harsh on some players who maybe have deserved harsh criticism but maybe we should wait till the season unfolds before being super negative of them if maybe they have changed and if not there will be plenty of time over the season to revisist everyones view points lol

with 2006 having had some changes maybe some players who have deserved criticism maybe will change with the new changes in 2006

What has changed that maybe will bring positive changes in the blues camp ie with players like Lance .. Hoops... Fev.. ect

Well for starters we have 2 new additions in the coaching panel and from all reports have been a great influence on the players so far. if Daniher can bring 2-3 players around then he has already proven a great addition.

Also the influx of new recruits ie Murphy / Josh and co will always change the outlook of theother players this has been instrumental in improving some of the senior players at the Tigers Hawks and WB when genuine talent mixs with the list and last year. So hopefully having some highly talented recruits will also make a positive change on some malighned players of 2005.

The removal of some bad influences can also change the list attitude and only my opinion but regardless of whether campo was hard done by or deserved his criticism general feedback showed he was unhappy and in general a poor leader and selfish and not good for general player unity well only my opionion. So maybe his removal will change the attitude of some he may have negatively influenced.

And a last point i applaud players who put there hands up and want to take more responsibility. We have criticised our list for lack of leadership or wanting to show they want to be more and improve. Then when we see players actually putting there hand up or wanting to grab there chance we are quick to rubbish them before even seeing if they have shown the improvement they are stating they are wanting to do.

if Lance wants to step up and be a leader well i applaud him dosnt mean i wont comment during the year if he proves to go back to his old ways but if he has changed leads and shows he can be fit then that can only be a + for the Blues and our leadship stocks. If Hoops wants to go the Midfield and shows that he can make the change and we benefit then thats fantastic. If hoops shirks or fails to have any inpact we can always comment later on but i prefer to start the year positivly before digging the boots in before i have even seen the season unfold.

2006 is a new year like any other we know that fortunes can change quickly if somehow the mix is evenly tweeked slightly as in the Tigers last year. So lets see how the season unfolds and hope that players back up there claims. if they do ultimately will only be good for 2006

Cheers guys not long before the season starts again.

Author:	Wolfe [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:28 am ]
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All i can say is cant wait for the season to start and cant come back more quickly on that note its funny that even before the season starts we are already been pretty harsh on some players who maybe have deserved harsh criticism but maybe we should wait till the season unfolds before being super negative of them if maybe they have changed and if not there will be plenty of time over the season to revisist everyones view points lol with 2006 having had some changes maybe some players who have deserved criticism maybe will change with the new changes in 2006 What has changed that maybe will bring positive changes in the blues camp ie with players like Lance .. Hoops... Fev.. ect Well for starters we have 2 new additions in the coaching panel and from all reports have been a great influence on the players so far. if Daniher can bring 2-3 players around then he has already proven a great addition. Also the influx of new recruits ie Murphy / Josh and co will always change the outlook of theother players this has been instrumental in improving some of the senior players at the Tigers Hawks and WB when genuine talent mixs with the list and last year. So hopefully having some highly talented recruits will also make a positive change on some malighned players of 2005. The removal of some bad influences can also change the list attitude and only my opinion but regardless of whether campo was hard done by or deserved his criticism general feedback showed he was unhappy and in general a poor leader and selfish and not good for general player unity well only my opionion. So maybe his removal will change the attitude of some he may have negatively influenced. And a last point i applaud players who put there hands up and want to take more responsibility. We have criticised our list for lack of leadership or wanting to show they want to be more and improve. Then when we see players actually putting there hand up or wanting to grab there chance we are quick to rubbish them before even seeing if they have shown the improvement they are stating they are wanting to do. if Lance wants to step up and be a leader well i applaud him dosnt mean i wont comment during the year if he proves to go back to his old ways but if he has changed leads and shows he can be fit then that can only be a + for the Blues and our leadship stocks. If Hoops wants to go the Midfield and shows that he can make the change and we benefit then thats fantastic. If hoops shirks or fails to have any inpact we can always comment later on but i prefer to start the year positivly before digging the boots in before i have even seen the season unfold. 2006 is a new year like any other we know that fortunes can change quickly if somehow the mix is evenly tweeked slightly as in the Tigers last year. So lets see how the season unfolds and hope that players back up there claims. if they do ultimately will only be good for 2006 Cheers guys not long before the season starts again.

Author:	Ponkstar [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:36 am ]
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I can sense a big difference in the vibe around here compare to this time last year. It seems like a much more cautious optimism. While we had many wild predictions about our rate of improvement last year, especially after the Wok fiasco, people seem far more content to look for improvement in key areas rather than necessarily climb the ladder. Hopefully we will climb the ladder. But it's not the be all and end all. We have improved our ruck stocks. We have shored up our defence. We have some youngsters looking ready to take the next step. We have a good little package of elite youngsters. We have weeded out some of the "show me the money" types. We have a pretty good coaching team. All of these are really positive indicators that we will show some improvement in competitiveness, if not premiership points.

Author:	Wolfe [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:21 am ]
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I agree with being Cautious and am similar myself but at same token i do want the players to say they want to improve themselves or be better leaders both of which we need if the Blues are to improve.. Hopefully with the changes this year some of those improvements and some players will step up show themselves to be better leaders. Anyway i try and start each year as a chance to reset especially after such a poor season and if we show endevour .. Enthusiasm win some games and generally show we are going in the right direction i will be happy. Will still wait until the season unfolds before making too many comments on individuals. The List is set for 2006 and we cant change any of the players on the list or who we recruied and who we discarded. The Coaching Panel is set with new additions so will be good to see if all the new changes effect the performance of the club in the New players to the senior players

Author:	Electric Blue [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:53 am ]
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Wolfe wrote: All i can say is cant wait for the season to start and cant come back more quickly on that note its funny that even before the season starts we are already been pretty harsh on some players who maybe have deserved harsh criticism but maybe we should wait till the season unfolds before being super negative of them if maybe they have changed and if not there will be plenty of time over the season to revisist everyones view points lol with 2006 having had some changes maybe some players who have deserved criticism maybe will change with the new changes in 2006 What has changed that maybe will bring positive changes in the blues camp ie with players like Lance .. Hoops... Fev.. ect Well for starters we have 2 new additions in the coaching panel and from all reports have been a great influence on the players so far. if Daniher can bring 2-3 players around then he has already proven a great addition. Also the influx of new recruits ie Murphy / Josh and co will always change the outlook of theother players this has been instrumental in improving some of the senior players at the Tigers Hawks and WB when genuine talent mixs with the list and last year. So hopefully having some highly talented recruits will also make a positive change on some malighned players of 2005. The removal of some bad influences can also change the list attitude and only my opinion but regardless of whether campo was hard done by or deserved his criticism general feedback showed he was unhappy and in general a poor leader and selfish and not good for general player unity well only my opionion. So maybe his removal will change the attitude of some he may have negatively influenced. And a last point i applaud players who put there hands up and want to take more responsibility. We have criticised our list for lack of leadership or wanting to show they want to be more and improve. Then when we see players actually putting there hand up or wanting to grab there chance we are quick to rubbish them before even seeing if they have shown the improvement they are stating they are wanting to do. if Lance wants to step up and be a leader well i applaud him dosnt mean i wont comment during the year if he proves to go back to his old ways but if he has changed leads and shows he can be fit then that can only be a + for the Blues and our leadship stocks. If Hoops wants to go the Midfield and shows that he can make the change and we benefit then thats fantastic. If hoops shirks or fails to have any inpact we can always comment later on but i prefer to start the year positivly before digging the boots in before i have even seen the season unfold. 2006 is a new year like any other we know that fortunes can change quickly if somehow the mix is evenly tweeked slightly as in the Tigers last year. So lets see how the season unfolds and hope that players back up there claims. if they do ultimately will only be good for 2006 Cheers guys not long before the season starts again. Great post!! It used to seperate us from the chafe, we didnt eat our own, things have sadly changed.. Cautious Optimism is the way to go! GO YOU MIGHTY BLUES!

Author:	Fabulous [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:33 pm ]
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I want to be optomistic but i know our list isnt that great and experienced. All im looking for in 2006 is - To be competitive in every game. - Watching the development in our youth - Ohh yer and wins agains Collingwood, Essendon*, and Richmond

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Author:	Warby [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:53 pm ]
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All round improvement.

Author:	blu944 [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:05 pm ]
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I'd watch 9 trent sporns and 9 wiggos, just bring back the frickin footy

Author:	Wojee [ Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:26 pm ]
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How many sleeps?

Author:	Marissa [ Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:53 am ]
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I am excited to see our knew talent aswell as how our pre season has gone for each and every player.

Author:	mjonc [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:57 am ]
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IMO we have serious talent on our list this year, just lack the depth to cover injuries. Simmo, Bentick, Walker, Russell, Hartlett, Murphy, T-Bird, Fisher, Waite, Betts, Kennedy and Bower. Add Whitnall, Fevola, French, Saddington, Stevens, Scotland, Houlihan, Lappin, Carrazzo and with a good run of injuries and an easy draw in terms of last years ladder positions the finals are a chance. Don't underestimate the amount of improvement we have. Lappin/Fevola both played like girls for the second half of last year, blame it on injury or contract talks, but these guys will be back to there best. IF Fev kicks on and scores 80+ we will have won alot of games I'm assuming, especially with Waite, Betts, Fisher, Hartlett and/or Kennedy around him. Houlihan, Bentick, Simmo, Murphy in the middle on top of Scotland, Kouta, Stevens, Lappin, Carrazzo adds alot of grunt and razzle dazzle. Saddington adds experience and spine to our backline with Whitnall offering the direction. T-Bird is fit again and Bower is big and raw as Roughhead was before him. Walker and Russell off the half back line adds line breaking pace, marking ability and skills, as will Simmo on the wing and more importantly goals from the middle. I see plenty of optimism to make finals this year. Great draw, considerable improvement in players and most of all the unpredictable with so many new fresh faces. We still won 4.5 games last year and should of won at least 3 more. We need alot of luck but i can see it happening. Kangas, Demons, Port are 3 teams to exit last years eight. What seperates us from the teams that did not make the eight? Collingwood and Essendon* believe they will make it

Author:	Chitty's Finger [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:04 pm ]
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Good post mjonc. See, me, I'm a bit stuck. I reckon if you look at our team 2006 v 2005 we are from an opponent's view a weaker team with Camporeale leaving and depriving us of experience in the middle. Not arguing for Campo or anything but he was still useful 30 metres in the clear Plus we didnt really recruit anyone big. Its sort of liek 2005 and we recruited Chambers and Longmuir and look what that got us. This year we've at least picked up some taller players McLaren and Saddington but whether they will have a huge impact I can't say. Against that I know when we hit our straps at the end of the year Campo was nowhear near the middle and Bentick, Walker and Carrazzo were. These guys will hang around for the long-term and be good I reckon, each of them in different ways. Whether they're ready to take on great midfielders I can't say But then we only looked good when the pressure was off, after we were smashed in the middle of the season. A nd then we scum some OK wins against some middle ranking teams... ANd then the Bombers smash us and they were less than a middle ranking team! Its so confusing. We haven't picked anyone up of note and we're relying on player development to get us through. ON the plus side it looks like Houlihan and Murphy can add to Stevo's delivery into the forward line, and thats where we struggled over the past few years, and Saddinton should be useful in that back half to stop those shocker match-ups. I reckon Bryan will have learned a heap and will play1 5 games plus to be in our Best team, maybe helping our ruck roles out alot. I just don't know. As long as the kids get a few games and show a bit I reckon I'll be happy.

Author:	markj [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:30 pm ]
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jeez i'd love an upset win over the saints ! .. go blues ..

Author:	CK95 [ Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:36 pm ]
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I'm just hoping we see us tackling better & showing the benefits of another year of physical development to our young side. I like your thinking though mjonc - every year there's a team that surprises everyone & you can't rule us out for the role in 06. Go Blues!

Author:	camel [ Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:55 am ]
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markj wrote: jeez i'd love an upset win over the saints ! .. go blues .. Who says it would be an upset! Good stuff guys â€¦ we'll go alright this year.

Author:	SurreyBlue [ Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:22 am ]
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First couple of games will set the tone again. Melbourne is a must win. Nothing less, lose this and pack our bags for long winter .... again. Then Fremantle, at the very least, we must push, push and push this mob until the final bell. Pinch the win and look out. An away win early does wonders to the teams belief. Then we play Sydney, Hawthorn, Richmond, Collingwood & Essendon. IMHO, we could be sitting with 4 wins 3 loses if not 5/2. As long as the team is up and motivated.......Hawthorn, Richmond, Collingwood and Essendon don't worry me. Hell we might even beat the premiers, anyone remember last years game without a ruckman @ TD. If we are at 5/2 ...... you just never know.

Author:	keogh [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:45 pm ]
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We will finish between 6th and 16th

Author:	Warby [ Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:40 pm ]
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keogh wrote: We will finish between 6th and 16th Middleish?

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Author:	kaxsta [ Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:07 am ]
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The great thing about pre-season for ANY footy supporter is that all teams are equal favourities to win the flag! The bad thing about pre-season is we have to sit through the Winter Olympics while waiting for the foooty to start.....

Author:	molsey [ Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:20 pm ]
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I agree Surrey ... if we can perform at the start of the year maybe it will deliver the confidence we will need through the middle of the year. To me, a real highlight will be playing the top draft picks, hopefully in the one team. Round 15, 2005 was the first time in our Club's history that we played 3 Top Ten draft picks in the one team. It took until 1999 for us to play 2 of them, and I hope some time in 2006 we get to see all 5 in the one team. All this comes from a recent article that is currently in Blueseum: http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-read_artic ... rticleId=4 although a more fan-friendly version should be up on carltonfc.com.au some time over the next few weeks.

Author:	Warby [ Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:01 pm ]
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kaxsta wrote: The bad thing about pre-season is we have to sit through the Winter Olympics while waiting for the foooty to start..... They've started have they?.... (I suppose we'll have another Steven Bradbury now and have to get excited)