TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Waite is overrated

Thats right I went there.
Dont get me wrong I love Waite but to say that he holds up our forward line is a joke.
Their was alot of talk about him becoming the premier centre half forward of the league a couple of years ago in the Carlton fans circle, mainly because he is so athletic, but it has been three years now and he is still at the same place that he was three years ago.
He is a bad kick and can be shut down easily, too much emphasis has been put on him by Pagan which is not Waites fault.
It really frustrates me becuase he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game.
Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts?

bentick4brownlow wrote:

StKilda must of won last night.

he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game.

Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts?

Author:	bentick4brownlow [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:53 pm ]
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Thats right I went there. Dont get me wrong I love Waite but to say that he holds up our forward line is a joke. Their was alot of talk about him becoming the premier centre half forward of the league a couple of years ago in the Carlton fans circle, mainly because he is so athletic, but it has been three years now and he is still at the same place that he was three years ago. He is a bad kick and can be shut down easily, too much emphasis has been put on him by Pagan which is not Waites fault. It really frustrates me becuase he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game. Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts?

Author:	TheSheik [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:59 pm ]
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He's not a CHF's bootlace, he is a third marking forward or an extremely hard to match-up on running wingman.

Author:	KoRn [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:02 pm ]
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He's tall and has a fantastic leap, but he is not a smart player, I reckon he's a taller and stronger version of Wiggins, works very hard but at times his decision making is pretty dumb.

Author:	ballistic blues [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:02 pm ]
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coming from someone whos user names in bentickforbrownlow.......... wheres the logic in that

Author:	magic [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:09 pm ]
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I must admit at times his kicking is not up to scratch, but he will be a star when he overcomes these problems, i remember when Fevola was shocking in front of goal.

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Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:13 pm ]
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Good to see the positivity keeping up deep into the season.

Author:	Ponkstar [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:17 pm ]
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Massive in potential, short on delivery thus far. He will still be a great player, but is still immature and will need more time. More of a Mil Hanna type than a Sticks Kernahan. Hard runner, athletic, can turn a match with moments of brilliance, hard to match up as a 3rd or 4th forward, but no week in week out delivery. He'll be a vital cog in the Carlton machine in 2 years time.

Author:	blueblood95 [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Your a bit hard on him
Geez1 Waite has a lot of potential and he is only a young fella. One thing that all the knockers are forgetting is that the ball is being kicked very poorly into the forward line. fev and waite both struggle due to the terrible skills of the carlton mid field.

Author:	jbee [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:28 pm ]
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bentick4brownlow wrote: Thats right I went there. Dont get me wrong I love Waite but to say that he holds up our forward line is a joke. Their was alot of talk about him becoming the premier centre half forward of the league a couple of years ago in the Carlton fans circle, mainly because he is so athletic, but it has been three years now and he is still at the same place that he was three years ago. He is a bad kick and can be shut down easily, too much emphasis has been put on him by Pagan which is not Waites fault. It really frustrates me becuase he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game. Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts? StKilda must of won last night.

Author:	jimmae [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:31 pm ]
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The only fault I see in his game at the moment is managing to keep himself in the game on a variety of opponents and his kicking for goal. Away from goal his disposal is sensational, I feel he gets into a different routine, very hard hands and all over the place on the set shots and on the run. Needs to calm down, maybe slow up on the run and drop the ball with soft hands.

Author:	blueblood95 [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:	he does need to get his goal kicking better
Your right. He does need to clean up his kicking action. Like the rest of the current team. i think our skills will improve with confidence

Author:	blueblood95 [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:56 pm ]
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Steady on! he is still adapting to the game and has improved dramatically over the past three years. If he had a bit more consistant support around him I believe he would look better than he has looked in the past. Anyway, I dont reckon he is over rated

Author:	AIRCAV [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:03 pm ]
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is this what this forum has descended to? Are we @#$%&! Tiger supporters eating our own?

Author:	The_Cranium [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:07 pm ]
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waite is over-rated.... just a ridiculous statement. Quote: he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game. waite is over-rated yet you reckon he could be one of the best players in the league and dominate. well is he over-rated or a potential superstar?

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Author:	Deano Supremo [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:13 pm ]
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bentick4brownlow wrote: Thats right I went there. Dont get me wrong I love Waite but to say that he holds up our forward line is a joke. Their was alot of talk about him becoming the premier centre half forward of the league a couple of years ago in the Carlton fans circle, mainly because he is so athletic, but it has been three years now and he is still at the same place that he was three years ago. He is a bad kick and can be shut down easily, too much emphasis has been put on him by Pagan which is not Waites fault. It really frustrates me becuase he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game. Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts? You're overrated

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:14 pm ]
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bentick4brownlow wrote: Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts? maybe your expectations are too stupid?

Author:	Blues2005 [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:29 pm ]
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I don't really think he's overrated, he's just inconsistent at the moment. Jarrad has a touch of brilliance about him and can single-handedly change the direction of a match. He is an instinctive player who is able to do the more difficult things well but sometimes struggles with the more mundane and everyday aspects of footy. He is not a good kick for goal from setshots in general but any snapshots or difficult kicks from the boundary line and I'd back him nearly every time. I do think though that he has the potential to be a star of the competition, remember he has only played 52 games of footy. In time hopefully he will start to close the gap between his best and worst performances.

Author:	Linus [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:55 pm ]
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bentick4brownlow wrote: Thats right I went there. Dont get me wrong I love Waite but to say that he holds up our forward line is a joke. Their was alot of talk about him becoming the premier centre half forward of the league a couple of years ago in the Carlton fans circle, mainly because he is so athletic, but it has been three years now and he is still at the same place that he was three years ago. He is a bad kick and can be shut down easily, too much emphasis has been put on him by Pagan which is not Waites fault. It really frustrates me becuase he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game. Maybe my expectations are too high, thoughts? Pal you are 2 votes away from being potentialy voted off here.... (make that 1!) All together now.."Oh we're from Carlton land, a fighting fury we're from Carlton land, in any...."

Author:	blueblood95 [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:14 pm ]
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It is important that we are realistic about Jarrad and the rest of the baby blues. pagan has fulfilled all that he has promised so far. On saturday night we will see the blues beat Sydney and gain a hell of a lot of confidence. I reckon that the blues are ready to take the next step and the rest of the competition wont know what has hit them when these boys get confident and gel as a team!