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| Author: | mikkey [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Smorgon steels himself for Blues job |
http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/smorgon-steels-himself-for-blues-job/2006/04/17/1145126055518.html Quote: Confirming that all contracts put in place during Collins' regime would be honoured, Smorgon ruled out a return to playing home games at Princes Park but would not rule out the Blues selling matches interstate.
Oh, goodie.... 
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| Author: | Kaptain Kouta [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smorgon steels himself for Blues job |
mikkey wrote: http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/smorgon-steels-himself-for-blues-job/2006/04/17/1145126055518.html
Quote: Confirming that all contracts put in place during Collins' regime would be honoured, Smorgon ruled out a return to playing home games at Princes Park but would not rule out the Blues selling matches interstate. Oh, goodie.... Carlton are already playing 4-5 games per season interstate. What's the problem with selling a match interstate and travelling "Away" less? It adds up to the same thing. There have been so many comments about Carlton needing to get on the front foot and promote the Club interstate, yet when it's mooted, all you can hear is the wailing and complaining from Melbourne supporters. If we want Carlton to grow into a truly national "brand", things like this need to be considered and debated rationally. |
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| Author: | camel [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:30 am ] |
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It won't be a popular opinion, but I can see a lot of merit in what you say KK. As for Smorgon as President, well it seems he is the man most likely, but why not follow the team's lead and blood the youth! |
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| Author: | Speedy [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:41 am ] |
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camelboy wrote: It won't be a popular opinion, but I can see a lot of merit in what you say KK.
As for Smorgon as President, well it seems he is the man most likely, but why not follow the team's lead and blood the youth! Perhaps the youth as VP at least. |
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| Author: | camel [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:04 am ] |
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Yes, good call Speedy. |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smorgon steels himself for Blues job |
Kaptain Kouta wrote: mikkey wrote: http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/smorgon-steels-himself-for-blues-job/2006/04/17/1145126055518.html Quote: Confirming that all contracts put in place during Collins' regime would be honoured, Smorgon ruled out a return to playing home games at Princes Park but would not rule out the Blues selling matches interstate. Oh, goodie.... Carlton are already playing 4-5 games per season interstate. What's the problem with selling a match interstate and travelling "Away" less? It adds up to the same thing. There have been so many comments about Carlton needing to get on the front foot and promote the Club interstate, yet when it's mooted, all you can hear is the wailing and complaining from Melbourne supporters. If we want Carlton to grow into a truly national "brand", things like this need to be considered and debated rationally. thats a bit rich mate. and pretty funny considering your stance on the alternative strip. 
for what its worth i dont have any issue with it, aslong as we play less interstate games. i.e. we play west coast, sydney, adelaide one year, and sell three home games to canberra as an example. then the following year we play freo, brisbane, port and three home games to canberra but not if it means we play 5 interstate teams then a further 3 home games away would think that is a great idea, and if it can guarantee us 1.5 mill for the 3 games a year im all for it. also, membership prices needs to be reduced due to having less games in melbourne aslo, the club needs to ensure that the games will be on free to air tv ensuring we get further coverage and better sponsorship for it |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:36 am ] |
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Yes, the Carlton propaganda machine in action. Smorgon puts himself out there.... Didn't know why collo resigned he reckons... not sure if he has the numbers he reckons..."we owe him alot" Too right you do!! Wish he had his cousins passion ... Wasnt a fan of Collos in the end as he had gone as far as he could.. but these blokes have the capacity to be human wrecking balls if theyre around for a while... With Smorgon it will be all bottom line... everything we do will be bottom line... |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:40 am ] |
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on smorgan, got to say, im not over enthused about him being the president. the first question i ask is if he is on the board of "smorgan steel" why the @#$%&! arent we sponsored by them in some way or another. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:45 am ] |
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ThePrez wrote: on smorgan, got to say, im not over enthused about him being the president.
the first question i ask is if he is on the board of "smorgan steel" why the F@%&#! arent we sponsored by them in some way or another. when you think smorgon two words dominate when it comes to money.. 'fish"and "@rse"..plus " tighter" (just to paint the picture)as a person its "aloof" and "dreary" "arrogant" thats 3 words. But ill try and give him a go.... REALLY,REALLY,REALLY,REALLY.. wanted to become president though... i mean REALLY... REALLY...REALLY. The question has been asked on board level if sponsorship and advertising are tax deductable why some of our more wealthy directors dont toss in a few bob... |
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| Author: | konstrukt [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:45 am ] |
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I to am concerned with Smorgan taking over the reigns. A little whisper i heard is that Collo approached the recovery mission with a policy of a no quick fix which the current board members have grown tired of. My concern is that now Collo has gone we could see the club go cap in hand to the AFL, selling home games and the one that scares me the most is recruiting for short term gain onfield. In Collo's last speech as president he basically pleaded to Dennis to continue with the youth policy and dont bend over for no one? |
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| Author: | konstrukt [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:49 am ] |
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Is it more likely than not that he will be a stand in president and behind the scenes maybe a new ticket being formed names like Grollo, Fahour and Fitzpatrick been thrown around. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:53 am ] |
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konstrukt wrote: I to am concerned with Smorgan taking over the reigns. A little whisper i heard is that Collo approached the recovery mission with a policy of a no quick fix which the current board members have grown tired of. My concern is that now Collo has gone we could see the club go cap in hand to the AFL, selling home games and the one that scares me the most is recruiting for short term gain onfield.
In Collo's last speech as president he basically pleaded to Dennis to continue with the youth policy and dont bend over for no one? The feeling is we will become a North .. where all we attempt to do is make ourselves competitive so we stem the tide. This person does not understand footyclubs are about emotion and the product on the field and winning premierships is all people want to see.. not us being tenth but we win one lose one win one lose one... |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:57 am ] |
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good i flower hope not for the first time in a few years, our football club is finally heading in the right direction. let it happen off field, becuase if we continue to go as we are currently on-field, the off field stuff will sort itself out. |
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:01 am ] |
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ThePrez wrote: good i F@%&#! hope not
for the first time in a few years, our football club is finally heading in the right direction. let it happen off field, becuase if we continue to go as we are currently on-field, the off field stuff will sort itself out. Prez excuse me for being a bit ignorant - but what have we done on feild that is so fantastic 21 point win against a side that hasnt won and two honorable losses - not exactly stirring stuff |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:03 am ] |
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There are whispers thaat an alternative ticket will be formed Fitzy and Fahoud wont be part of it from what i understand .. but there are plenty of people with alot of clout around the place who will... What is abit of a pointer to the footy side of things is since this board has taken over Williams , Silvagni, Hunter, Swan and Collo have all resigned. All ex footballers and all ex premiership players leaving only Sticks . So the footballers obviously see something they dont like... and there is very little input from footballers on this board at the moment. No footballers and a beancounter means trouble. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:05 am ] |
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Sydney Blue wrote: ThePrez wrote: good i F@%&#! hope not for the first time in a few years, our football club is finally heading in the right direction. let it happen off field, becuase if we continue to go as we are currently on-field, the off field stuff will sort itself out. Prez excuse me for being a bit ignorant - but what have we done on feild that is so fantastic 21 point win against a side that hasnt won and two honorable losses - not exactly stirring stuff Its going to take a while to do it PROPERLY on the field... you arent expecting we knock over the WC by 100 points are you? Sure they have made mistakes but unlike Jack they havent been trading away early picks. Thats pretty good isnt it? Unfortunately trying to do a North 2 years ago cost us and sent us back.. But we should be ok in three years if we dont attempt to top up to be competive quicker. Look at whats happened to North by not being patient. |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:12 am ] |
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ahh, you see, im a positive supporter. for me the last three weeks have been great to watch. round 1 - it was the likes of livo, t-bird (who is coming back into some form) waite, simpson, murphy with good games from fev and scotland that got us over the line against a team no one gave as a chance against. round 2 - it was the likes of houlihan, bentick, walker, fev that got us near the line in a game that in previous years we would have got flogged round 3 - it was the likes of bentick, murphy, fev, mcclaren that got us near the line in game, like against freo would have seen us on the end of 7 or 8 goal flogging. that is extremelly positive for me. its not the usual lappin, french, whitnall (has played well in all 3 round though) that are getting us there, it is the kids, actually not going to call them kids anymore, it is the Young Men that are getting us there. we have only just lost the last two weeks, and could have possibly be sitting 3 - 0 if it was not for our bad first quarters and some shit full decisions by the umpire, both against freo (i figured 4 goals came from bad decisions) and against sydney (i figured 2 goals came from bad decisions) combine all that, with the fact, it is the kids that are getting us close to the line is very very promising for me and a very positive direction, we as a club are taking. make no mistake, this year, and maybe half of next year will be about "honorable" loses, then we make the next transition of winning those "tight games" ive always liked some of our kids and thought we where no where near as bad as some would like to believe, it will jsut take time for the kids to mature into men. im pretty positive about it all, if we where to lose every game for the rest of year, but play like we have in the first three rounds, and continue to develop and blood our "young men" i would be one very happy carlton supporter. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:19 am ] |
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Prez noone said our kids were shit! Our leadership has been shit.! And we need more champion kids through the draft. And we need more time.. till the shit leadership is replaced and the kids we have and will get will mature. then and only then will you see a meaningful rise.. (out of me) But youre not serious when two years ago you thought we had enough to go forward and go places??? 
Teague.. Kouta.. Campo... Kids like Murphy Walker Kennedy get taken early.. theyre the pointo of the spear going forwards along with whoever we snag this year.. the others will provide the support. |
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:26 am ] |
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Synbad wrote: Prez noone said our kids were shit!
Our leadership has been shit.! And we need more champion kids through the draft. And we need more time.. till the shit leadership is replaced and the kids we have and will get will mature. then and only then will you see a meaningful rise.. (out of me) But youre not serious when two years ago you thought we had enough to go forward and go places??? Teague.. Kouta.. Campo... Kids like Murphy Walker Kennedy get taken early.. theyre the pointo of the spear going forwards along with whoever we snag this year.. the others will provide the support. Synbad he needs to play the kids first -Russell -Kennedy and Blackwell - get them in and keep them in And I didnt agree with the policy of two years ago - what we are doing now is right - but play them dont leave them in the reserves - dont care if we loose play them - |
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| Author: | konstrukt [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:39 am ] |
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Those kids need there bodies to develop we cant have them running around and getting smashed week in week out though cant wait to see Kenendy play |
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