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While the big picture was clearly becoming blurred for him, little things about his fellow directors had also started to infuriate him. For example, Diggins had demanded to know why Josh Kennedy had been given the No. 5 guernsey worn by her father Brighton without her being consulted.

If that's true, Diggins needs to have a long hard look at herself. Should we ask McKay's kids if it's ok also? :garthp:

Certain directors â€” notably John Valmorbida and Lauraine Diggins â€” did not like Collins' presidential style. They were suspicious of his relationship with the media and his Telstra Dome conflict and and believed (wrongly) he was responsible for repeatedly leaking stories to this newspaper.

Apart from hotel and gaming magnate Mathieson, Collins confided in close friend and AFL commissioner Bill Kelty, Andrew Demetriou and former Carlton director McKay. He reportedly left AFL chairman Ron Evans a telephone message and twice told Ian Johnson, Channel Seven managing director and Telstra Dome chairman, that he had had enough. Johnson would later claim he thought Collins was joking.

Camel, I think they can invite people onto the Board for the ones who resigned (i.e. Collo, but don't forget Hunter and Swan) and if doing so this or these doirectprs have to be confirmed at the next AGM. Not 100% but reasonable sure this is how it works.

Fancy being pissed off she wasnt consulted for Kennedys jumper.
Thats a person who doesnt have many things to do on the board.
Idle body.. idle mind..

If you want to know who the quality people are and what theyre doing... Look at what Bruce Mathieson says.

Theytre the keystone cops.

By the Way Caro says its not Collo.

But its interesting to see she highlights Diggins as a loser... :lol:

Fancy being pissed off she wasnt consulted for Kennedys jumper.
Thats a person who doesnt have many things to do on the board.
Idle body.. idle mind..

Good analysis CarltonClem,

but there is one thing I disagree with you about. I actually think what the article does is to describe board unity (as opposed to a divided board). Now Collo, Hunter, McKay, etc are gone, they are all of mind. And that to me is far more dangerous than having a divided board, because from the other article in The Age today (the one weher Smorgon airs dirty laundry on Pagan), it is quite obvious that the President doesn't have a clue.

Molly wrote:

There is only one person not on the inside group - Lee

Author:	7dominator [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:52 am ]
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No wonder Directors have been forced to sign confidentiality statements..... http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/real ... 20270.html

Author:	Navy Blue Horse [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:19 am ]
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While the big picture was clearly becoming blurred for him, little things about his fellow directors had also started to infuriate him. For example, Diggins had demanded to know why Josh Kennedy had been given the No. 5 guernsey worn by her father Brighton without her being consulted. If that's true, Diggins needs to have a long hard look at herself. Should we ask McKay's kids if it's ok also?

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:30 am ]
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I hope he gave her the short answer. It's ridiculous for board members to get so caught up in matters, that while very close to the heart, in the bigger picture are ridiculously trivial.

Author:	Rhys26 [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:39 am ]
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: While the big picture was clearly becoming blurred for him, little things about his fellow directors had also started to infuriate him. For example, Diggins had demanded to know why Josh Kennedy had been given the No. 5 guernsey worn by her father Brighton without her being consulted. If that's true, Diggins needs to have a long hard look at herself. Should we ask McKay's kids if it's ok also? If thats the case then what a joke. Instead of trying to lift membership, attract sponsers and winning games our directors instead are worrying about number allocation!!! You have to be kidding - the sooner this clown is off the board the better

Author:	mikkey [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:40 am ]
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From what I know Diggins more then once has got herself involved in micro management in the club in a bad way. She is not adding any value to the Board. Seems also to become clear that the resignation of the ex-players was not so much a Collo "issue" but probably frustration with the ineptness of most directors. New blood is needed now, and I will be very pissed off if they invite an ex-player on (which is good) without also inviting Clarke who missed out by 7 votes.

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Author:	Blue Bird [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:46 am ]
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: While the big picture was clearly becoming blurred for him, little things about his fellow directors had also started to infuriate him. For example, Diggins had demanded to know why Josh Kennedy had been given the No. 5 guernsey worn by her father Brighton without her being consulted. If that's true, Diggins needs to have a long hard look at herself. Should we ask McKay's kids if it's ok also? Sheesh - talk about priorities.

Author:	camel [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:49 am ]
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: While the big picture was clearly becoming blurred for him, little things about his fellow directors had also started to infuriate him. For example, Diggins had demanded to know why Josh Kennedy had been given the No. 5 guernsey worn by her father Brighton without her being consulted. If that's true, Diggins needs to have a long hard look at herself. Should we ask McKay's kids if it's ok also? Agreed. That is bloody ridiculous. There's quite a few worrying points in that article though. Apart from waiting until we all get another crack at voting for Directiors, I think we pretty much have to cross our fingers and hope for the best. Another question, seeing as we have just had a voting process, and noting the previous post stating that Clarke missed out by a handful of votes â€¦ is it kosher (geez, hope that doesn't offend anyone ) to simply ask someone to join the board. Why do they not need to go to another vote?

Author:	CarltonClem [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:53 am ]
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I hereby accuse Collo of being the mole who fed Caro information. Why? 1) Over the course of the 2002 Black Friday affair, there seemed to be clear information provided to Caro regarding what was happening from BOTH sides, the AFL and Carlton. 2) Since Collo took over, there has been massive "leaking" to the Age. 3) Quote: Certain directors â€” notably John Valmorbida and Lauraine Diggins â€” did not like Collins' presidential style. They were suspicious of his relationship with the media and his Telstra Dome conflict and and believed (wrongly) he was responsible for repeatedly leaking stories to this newspaper. Why the flat denial? And why were other board members suspicious? It must either one of these two or Collo. Now further information is furnished re: Josh Kennedy and the no. 5 jumper. Why would that be in Diggins' best interest to leak to the Age? It's not, because clearly, as some of the posts above have said, is micro-management and ineptitude. 4) Quote: Apart from hotel and gaming magnate Mathieson, Collins confided in close friend and AFL commissioner Bill Kelty, Andrew Demetriou and former Carlton director McKay. He reportedly left AFL chairman Ron Evans a telephone message and twice told Ian Johnson, Channel Seven managing director and Telstra Dome chairman, that he had had enough. Johnson would later claim he thought Collins was joking. Who else would get this information? Only Ian Johnson or Collo would know. And how did Caro know who he'd told? Regardless of whether Collo is the mole, it seems there is board disunity at Carlton and this isn't good. The early signs are that I think there are some serious problems with some of the people on this Board - Diggins is one. And Kernahan - you can't play fence-sitter all the time. That shows me that regardless of how much courage you had as a player, you don't have the eptitude to sit on the board. Get off.

Author:	mikkey [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:54 am ]
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Camel, I think they can invite people onto the Board for the ones who resigned (i.e. Collo, but don't forget Hunter and Swan) and if doing so this or these doirectprs have to be confirmed at the next AGM. Not 100% but reasonable sure this is how it works.

Author:	camel [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:59 am ]
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mikkey wrote: Camel, I think they can invite people onto the Board for the ones who resigned (i.e. Collo, but don't forget Hunter and Swan) and if doing so this or these doirectprs have to be confirmed at the next AGM. Not 100% but reasonable sure this is how it works. Thanks.

Author:	Synbad [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:04 am ]
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Theytre the keystone cops. By the Way Caro says its not Collo. But its interesting to see she highlights Diggins as a loser... Fancy being pissed off she wasnt consulted for Kennedys jumper. Thats a person who doesnt have many things to do on the board. Idle body.. idle mind..

Author:	mikkey [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:05 am ]
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CC if Caro states it this way I think we can be reasonable sure that Collo was not the leak. Note the other name in your qoute no. 4... Swan...... But we don't know there are a number of scenarios possible. Journos construct their stories from a umber of sources and snippets of information. There could be more then one board member leaking, and it could (and I believe this to be quite likely) that board members are telling friends the inside goss and one or more of these are telling Caro. Some of the current Board members really like the sound of their voice, I would not be surprised if they are happy to tell stuff to people and it ends up with Caro via this channel.

Author:	Molly [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:09 am ]
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Good analysis CarltonClem, but there is one thing I disagree with you about. I actually think what the article does is to describe board unity (as opposed to a divided board). Now Collo, Hunter, McKay, etc are gone, they are all of mind. And that to me is far more dangerous than having a divided board, because from the other article in The Age today (the one weher Smorgon airs dirty laundry on Pagan), it is quite obvious that the President doesn't have a clue.

Author:	Rhys26 [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:09 am ]
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Synbad wrote: Fancy being pissed off she wasnt consulted for Kennedys jumper. Thats a person who doesnt have many things to do on the board. Idle body.. idle mind.. When is she up for re-election? We are losing all these quality people from on the board and yet we have this goose still on there. Hopefully the comment in the paper about the number issue may put the pressure on her to stand down.

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Author:	Synbad [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:15 am ]
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If you want to know who the quality people are and what theyre doing... Look at what Bruce Mathieson says.

Author:	mikkey [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:21 am ]
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Synbad wrote: If you want to know who the quality people are and what theyre doing... Look at what Bruce Mathieson says. And he will be gone soon.....

Author:	Speedy [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:51 am ]
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Synbad wrote: Theytre the keystone cops. By the Way Caro says its not Collo. But its interesting to see she highlights Diggins as a loser... Fancy being pissed off she wasnt consulted for Kennedys jumper. Thats a person who doesnt have many things to do on the board. Idle body.. idle mind.. She is a complete waste of space - anyone know when she is up for re-election? We need to make sure she is up against a top quality candidate, backed by a great campaign.

Author:	Speedy [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:53 am ]
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Molly wrote: Good analysis CarltonClem, but there is one thing I disagree with you about. I actually think what the article does is to describe board unity (as opposed to a divided board). Now Collo, Hunter, McKay, etc are gone, they are all of mind. And that to me is far more dangerous than having a divided board, because from the other article in The Age today (the one weher Smorgon airs dirty laundry on Pagan), it is quite obvious that the President doesn't have a clue. There is only one person not on the inside group - Lee

Author:	Synbad [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:53 am ]
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She might be up this year. I reckon her goose is cooked.

Author:	Synbad [ Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:55 am ]
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Speedy wrote: Molly wrote: Good analysis CarltonClem, but there is one thing I disagree with you about. I actually think what the article does is to describe board unity (as opposed to a divided board). Now Collo, Hunter, McKay, etc are gone, they are all of mind. And that to me is far more dangerous than having a divided board, because from the other article in The Age today (the one weher Smorgon airs dirty laundry on Pagan), it is quite obvious that the President doesn't have a clue. There is only one person not on the inside group - Lee Doesnt sound like Mathieson is either...not that he would need to be in it to feel secure....