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Why don't we get on the Anzac Day gravy train?
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Author:  Robert Heatley [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Why don't we get on the Anzac Day gravy train?
Graham Smorgan recently suggested that it was not out of the question that we could sell a home game interstate. That is a pathetic soft option.

Why not go to the Eagles and suggest a regular fixture at Subiaco, their home game on Anzac Day. We are a viable drawcard over there, we have a huge following. It may also do the following:

- Attract a WA local sponsor for the day.
- A grant from WA tourism - surely someone could come up with some decent packages for Vic based Blues supporters to have an annual pilgrimage west.

- WA people would love an annual event

- It deflects some attention from Collingwood and Essendon*

- It may spark a bidding war between WC and freo that would be to our benefit.

- Exposure of the brand.

- The time difference allows for our game to be played after the other one - may be an advantage or disadvantage, but at least we would have the time slot to ourselves.

If anyone has been to Subi for a Blues game you would understand the potential of a fixture like this. Has a lot more merit than playing the Demons at Carrara or giving the Swans another home game.
Author:  Deano Supremo [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:15 am ]
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Where do I sign?

The Blues and Eagles have had some classic games over the years, this would add to that.

Love it.

Of course if that fails Good Friday is still available :-D
Author:  Wojee [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:23 am ]
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Deano Supremo wrote:
Of course if that fails Good Friday is still available :-D


I'm more for this idea. The AFL is one of the few codes that refuses to play on this day so when this changes, and I'm pretty sure it will eventually, it'd be great to have our own annual blockbuster.
Author:  Barnesy [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:24 am ]
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Even if we played like Port and St Kilda last night , and had the Monday night before.

Just gives us the chance too be back in Melbourne on Tuesday for a following Sunday game.
Author:  Deano Supremo [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:26 am ]
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Barnesy wrote:
Even if we played like Port and St Kilda last night , and had the Monday night before.

Just gives us the chance too be back in Melbourne on Tuesday for a following Sunday game.


ANZAC day isn't always on a Tuesday.
Author:  malbi [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:52 am ]
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So what's in it for us? It won't be our home game so we will not get any gate receipts or sponsorship dollars.

A better tack would be to get together with the 13 other clubs that do not play on Anzac Day and go to the AFL and say it is time that this pandering to Essendon* and Collingwood stops. They will get a big crowd any time they play. Why shouldn't other clubs benefit from the build-up to the public holiday game and the following crowd?

Imagine Carlton vs Richmond on Anzac Day at the G. That is what I would like to see.
Author:  bondiblue [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:18 pm ]
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Great suggestion RH.

What shits me is that Essendumb and Colliflowers will take home $750,000 each from the game. When we consider that this game has been going on for a decade and that a decade ago Carlton had more members than Essendumb, it's easy to conclude that this Anzac day exposure is not only financially lucrative, but great for team exposure, hence sponsors exposure....and club growth.

We have to do something like this outside of Victoria if Ess and Coll keep this to themselves. It's not based on the cornerstone of our Constitution; that we are an Egalitarianist society.

Perth or Adelaide is a goer. Carlton Richmond clashes need more spruiking too.
Author:  The Tyrant [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:23 pm ]
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we could play Port Adelaide for the "Craig Bradley cup"

Or Adelaide for the "Kernahan cup"

or Richmond for the "Simon Fletcher trophy"





..... but a better idea would be to get onto the ANZAC day DAVEY train
Author:  Kouta [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:42 pm ]
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The Tyrant wrote:
we could play Port Adelaide for the "Craig Bradley cup"

Or Adelaide for the "Kernahan cup"

The "Glenelg players that went to Carlton Cup"? :P

I'd love if we got onboard with the Eagles and played a match against them on Anzac day, but I think we have too many tall forwards for them to cover. It's a joke that the Scum and the Filth are the only Victorian clubs that get to play on Anzac day, all of the clubs sent men away to fight in Wars and should get the chance to represent them on the day.

The other members of the big four would fill the ground just as easily as the Scum and Filth.
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:51 pm ]
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No one wanted a bar of Anzac Day until Collingwood and Essendon* ran with it. Now everyone wants to share in the spoils. Carlton and Richmond aside no other two teams are capable of drawing that kind of crowd.

Melbourne vs Hawthorn for the 'Dork Cup' isn't going to draw the attention and 90,000 people. They're not there because its Anzac Day. They're there to see Essendon* and Collingwood.

I'm all for creating our own traditional clashes, and something with the Eagles would be great. We play there every year anyway. We could come to some kind of arrangement with them or as RH suggested gain a sponsor for the day.
Author:  malbi [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:24 pm ]
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
No one wanted a bar of Anzac Day until Collingwood and Essendon* ran with it. Now everyone wants to share in the spoils. Carlton and Richmond aside no other two teams are capable of drawing that kind of crowd.

Melbourne vs Hawthorn for the 'Dork Cup' isn't going to draw the attention and 90,000 people. They're not there because its Anzac Day. They're there to see Essendon* and Collingwood.

Can someone please tell me why we have to get a capacity crowd (i.e. in the vicinity of 90,000 people) to an Anzac Day match? If the Bulldogs and the Kangaroos played in front of 60,000 on Anzac Day then who cares? At least they have the opportunity then to grow their brands. People have the foolish idea that an Anzac Day match is a competition to see how many people we can squeeze into one ground. :roll: Collingwood and Essendon* gain more than the crowd at the game. It is the exposure... one day, one game, build-up, national TV audience, etc.
Author:  TheGame [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:34 pm ]
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I would like us to play on a day like Anzac day but I can live with them keeping it. What I don't like is the filth getting every single public holiday which hasn't always been the case. They could have put us and Bitchmond on Easter Monday and StKilda and Geelong on queens birthday. Spread it around a bit.
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:02 pm ]
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malleefowl wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
No one wanted a bar of Anzac Day until Collingwood and Essendon* ran with it. Now everyone wants to share in the spoils. Carlton and Richmond aside no other two teams are capable of drawing that kind of crowd.

Melbourne vs Hawthorn for the 'Dork Cup' isn't going to draw the attention and 90,000 people. They're not there because its Anzac Day. They're there to see Essendon* and Collingwood.

Can someone please tell me why we have to get a capacity crowd (i.e. in the vicinity of 90,000 people) to an Anzac Day match? If the Bulldogs and the Kangaroos played in front of 60,000 on Anzac Day then who cares? At least they have the opportunity then to grow their brands. People have the foolish idea that an Anzac Day match is a competition to see how many people we can squeeze into one ground. :roll: Collingwood and Essendon* gain more than the crowd at the game. It is the exposure... one day, one game, build-up, national TV audience, etc.


Do you think the tradtion and the brand promotion is going to be there in front of 45,000 at a Bulldogs Kangaroos game? The atmosphere comes with a big crowd combined with a big occassion.

Its not a competition to get the biggest crowd, but a packed stadium is essential for the atmosphere.
Author:  malbi [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:21 pm ]
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
malleefowl wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
No one wanted a bar of Anzac Day until Collingwood and Essendon* ran with it. Now everyone wants to share in the spoils. Carlton and Richmond aside no other two teams are capable of drawing that kind of crowd.

Melbourne vs Hawthorn for the 'Dork Cup' isn't going to draw the attention and 90,000 people. They're not there because its Anzac Day. They're there to see Essendon* and Collingwood.

Can someone please tell me why we have to get a capacity crowd (i.e. in the vicinity of 90,000 people) to an Anzac Day match? If the Bulldogs and the Kangaroos played in front of 60,000 on Anzac Day then who cares? At least they have the opportunity then to grow their brands. People have the foolish idea that an Anzac Day match is a competition to see how many people we can squeeze into one ground. :roll: Collingwood and Essendon* gain more than the crowd at the game. It is the exposure... one day, one game, build-up, national TV audience, etc.


Do you think the tradtion and the brand promotion is going to be there in front of 45,000 at a Bulldogs Kangaroos game? The atmosphere comes with a big crowd combined with a big occassion.

Its not a competition to get the biggest crowd, but a packed stadium is essential for the atmosphere.

I said 60,000 at a Bulldogs vs. Kangaroos game. Why did you downgrade me to 45,000?

The Bulldogs and Kangaroos are fighting to retain the tradition of their clubs. This is just one of the reasons why these clubs can not get enough exposure, enough supporters, enough sponsorship and enough money to be able to fight in the big league.

Carlton has a similar problem. We don't get enough exposure because we played at Princes Park for too long and Channel 9 didn't want to go out there.

OK. Take the Bulldogs and the Kangaroos out of it because one will eventually relocate to the Gold Coast/Brisbane and the other will relocate to Sydney.

Imagine St.Kilda vs Geelong on Anzac Day. Why not? It would be a more quality game than today. It is only fair that they have an opportunity to get the exposure and corresponding gate receipts and sponsorship dollars.
Author:  malbi [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:26 pm ]
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TheGame wrote:
I would like us to play on a day like Anzac day but I can live with them keeping it. What I don't like is the filth getting every single public holiday which hasn't always been the case. They could have put us and Bitchmond on Easter Monday and StKilda and Geelong on queens birthday. Spread it around a bit.

Easter Monday is on the Easter weekend where many people go away. The Queens birthday holiday is at the start of Winter and many people stay indoors.

Anzac Day has its own build-up because of the diggers, the weather is usually still fine. It is the perfect day for a football match to gain exposure. No other day is like it, except for the last Saturday in September...
Author:  Kaptain Kouta [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:49 pm ]
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malleefowl wrote:
The Queens birthday holiday is at the start of Winter and many people stay indoors.


And Queen's Birthday weekend is traditionally the opening weekend of the year, which means we can rule out Melbourne, unless they play the match at Mt Hotham or Bright.
Author:  TheGame [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:46 pm ]
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malleefowl wrote:
TheGame wrote:
I would like us to play on a day like Anzac day but I can live with them keeping it. What I don't like is the filth getting every single public holiday which hasn't always been the case. They could have put us and Bitchmond on Easter Monday and StKilda and Geelong on queens birthday. Spread it around a bit.

Easter Monday is on the Easter weekend where many people go away. The Queens birthday holiday is at the start of Winter and many people stay indoors.

Anzac Day has its own build-up because of the diggers, the weather is usually still fine. It is the perfect day for a football match to gain exposure. No other day is like it, except for the last Saturday in September...


Fair point. Look at this stage I'd be happy just to get a few more Friday nights.
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:26 pm ]
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malleefowl wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
malleefowl wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
No one wanted a bar of Anzac Day until Collingwood and Essendon* ran with it. Now everyone wants to share in the spoils. Carlton and Richmond aside no other two teams are capable of drawing that kind of crowd.

Melbourne vs Hawthorn for the 'Dork Cup' isn't going to draw the attention and 90,000 people. They're not there because its Anzac Day. They're there to see Essendon* and Collingwood.

Can someone please tell me why we have to get a capacity crowd (i.e. in the vicinity of 90,000 people) to an Anzac Day match? If the Bulldogs and the Kangaroos played in front of 60,000 on Anzac Day then who cares? At least they have the opportunity then to grow their brands. People have the foolish idea that an Anzac Day match is a competition to see how many people we can squeeze into one ground. :roll: Collingwood and Essendon* gain more than the crowd at the game. It is the exposure... one day, one game, build-up, national TV audience, etc.


Do you think the tradtion and the brand promotion is going to be there in front of 45,000 at a Bulldogs Kangaroos game? The atmosphere comes with a big crowd combined with a big occassion.

Its not a competition to get the biggest crowd, but a packed stadium is essential for the atmosphere.

I said 60,000 at a Bulldogs vs. Kangaroos game. Why did you downgrade me to 45,000?


Because I don't think you could get near 60,000.

Kangaroos struggle to get more than 40,000 for a final against interstate teams.
Author:  Warby [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:57 pm ]
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The AFL are not going to change a suuccessful formula.
Author:  Kaptain Kouta [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:03 pm ]
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Warby wrote:
The AFL are not going to change a suuccessful formula.


The only way they would possibly change it, or consider changing it, would be to make it a revolving blockbuster between the "big 4", because more often than not, those matches are hard fought, full on battles where no quarter is asked, and none given.

The teams always play tough against each other, regardless of form or ladder position, which is why the Anzac Matches are such great spectacles.
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