Trevor Barker vs Greg Williams
You'd be rapt with either in your side but only one of them will ever win you a premiership
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| Author: | The_Cranium [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Marc Murphy V Dale Thomas |
i keep hearing media and other football supporters banging on about how wonderful Dale Thomas is and how great collingwood have done by getting him. i'm over it. granted Thomas has a few highlight reel moments, but i think a lot of the football world are jumping the gun at this stage. who would all of you TCers rather? my firm belief is that carlton has the better footballer. Thomas makes highlight reels. Marc Murphy is a pure footballer, and i couldn't be more excited about him. his poise in traffic is awesome. his vision is exceptional. and he rarely wastes a possession. i think the whole debate can be summed up in one action. last friday night Murphy got the ball at CHF. he was just outside 50 heading goalward. he checked his kick and spotted up Fev 20 metres out on a slight angle. quite simply he made sure of it. Thomas in that situation i have no doubt would have gone for the highlight reel shot at goal from outside 50. he may have kicked and made the tape. he may have just missed and people would have banged on about how exciting he is to watch. Murphy made sure of it. basically what i am saying is that collingwood can have their highlight reel boy, i'll take our footballer any day. thoughts? |
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| Author: | bluehammer [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:31 pm ] |
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Trevor Barker vs Greg Williams You'd be rapt with either in your side but only one of them will ever win you a premiership
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| Author: | verbs [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:34 pm ] |
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bluehammer wrote: Trevor Barker vs Greg Williams
You'd be rapt with either in your side but only one of them will ever win you a premiership Can I have your house if Carlton don't win a premiership between now and when Murphy retires? And can I have your house and car if Collingwood wins a premiership before Carlton does? |
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| Author: | magic [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:36 pm ] |
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They are too different to compare, Thomas is a flashy reciever and Murph is a hard in and under. Both will be good players. |
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| Author: | mandy [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:40 pm ] |
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Both will be fantastic for both our clubs. They're very different players so it's very hard to pick one being better than the other. I think Daisy is quicker and much more flashy. Murphy has a much better "football brain" and is very hard at it. I think both clubs would be very happy with what we have and the other 14 clubs would be wishing they had one of them. |
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| Author: | verbs [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:45 pm ] |
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Or both of them. 
You can't fault either kid five weeks in. |
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| Author: | verbs [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:50 pm ] |
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Interesting. On The Couch were just praising Thomas for his poise in one incident where instead of blazing away he eased the ball onto the outside of the boot to hit a Cloke (I think) on the chest. |
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| Author: | The Tyrant [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:50 pm ] |
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Check your 10 commandments people Only one Lord 
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| Author: | slow_mo [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:53 pm ] |
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They are completely different players and are fulfilling different needs. We desperately needed an inside midfielder, they needed an outside midfielder with pace. It makes no sense to compare them. Very happy with Murph though
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| Author: | camel [ Mon May 01, 2006 9:09 pm ] |
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Yeah, Murphy is a hack, I mean he doesn't even have a flashy haircut. Goddard, Cooney … all #1 draft picks are supposed to have a mop top. We clearly made a huge mistake.
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| Author: | maxyblue [ Mon May 01, 2006 9:13 pm ] |
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predictably enough, our filth friends are having the same discussion and arriving at pretty much the same conclusion ... they are very different types and that both clubs would be pleased with what they've got ... http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=28577 |
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| Author: | blu944 [ Mon May 01, 2006 9:39 pm ] |
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Thomas is in the media because collingwood is winning and therefore, in the media. It's hard to talk up the blues when we're at 4 and 1 and staring down the barrel of 8 and 1. I personally couldn't have imagined murphy to turn out as well as he has to date. |
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| Author: | Ponkstar [ Mon May 01, 2006 9:46 pm ] |
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Do we even have to have this discussion? Why can't we just let these kids excel at what they do and appreciate their talents without comparing them to each other. |
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| Author: | blueslander [ Mon May 01, 2006 9:52 pm ] |
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There is something missing in this thread... Every time I read about Dale Thomas, there is the adjective "young" inserted before his name, actually it is so prevelant that at one stage I thought his name was "Young Dale-Thomas". I don't think I have ever heard "Young" being inserted into a Marc Murphy sentence. Thinking about it I believe that it is because, like all you guys have been saying, that Thomas is a flashy player, he has a bit of flair about him and pace, a bit of show boating and something that the traditional footballer tends to get stamped out of their game as they learn to do the team thing, be harder at the ball and not care about personal glory. I guess when you become so adept at playing the percentages you lose that ability to do the special things or at least you don't do them as often because they can hurt your team. I think a player like Thomas is great for football and there is nothing more exciting than a kid that backs himself... Actually that's not true, there is one thing and that is a kid that puts his body on the line even when he is punching outside his weight, someone that has hands so quick that you feel like you're watching a copperfield special, a kid that can get the ball out to runners. I know which one I would prefer at the blues these days... Mind you it is another arguement all together about how come this "young-kid" is playing at Collingwood. |
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| Author: | mandy [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:13 pm ] |
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blueslander wrote: Mind you it is another arguement all together about how come this "young-kid" is playing at Collingwood.
What does that even mean? |
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| Author: | Robert Heatley [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:19 pm ] |
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Would love to have both, but very happy with Murphy. How soon can we make him captain? |
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| Author: | Zippy [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:21 pm ] |
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What about Ryder? |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:25 pm ] |
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This is a bigfooty argument - not that i'd know , i've never been there i promise !! 
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| Author: | bluehammer [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:26 pm ] |
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verbs wrote: bluehammer wrote: Trevor Barker vs Greg Williams You'd be rapt with either in your side but only one of them will ever win you a premiership Can I have your house if Carlton don't win a premiership between now and when Murphy retires? And can I have your house and car if Collingwood wins a premiership before Carlton does? No. No you can't. |
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| Author: | Wolfe [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:36 pm ] |
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good post and so far in there seasons both have been excellent aquisitions having both been important players in both sides. Good comparison and both exceptional talents and i still slightly lean to Murphy cause of his poise and prob because he has almost the best disposal in the team lol but no doubt as people have described Thomas is the flashier of the two. In context of where both teams are thomas is a better fit for collingwood as they can afford to have a flashy player i dont think thomas would be show all of his flashiness in a team like the Blues in its current form and may even struggle if he was in a team like the blues Murphy to perform like he has in a side well lacking of skill and to have performed as he has and to have made such an impact shows that he will perform in a struggling team and no doubt would excell in a good team. Also something Blues lack which also favours Murphy is leadership and i have know doubt that Murphy will be a leader of this club in the not distant future and at this stage we need a more composed mature minded player with leadership than a flashier occasion player. If we had a stronger list then of course Thomas maybe a good option but i think that if we had that Murphy would be equally as good but in tough or good times i think Murphy is currently a better Blues fit |
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