Actually Goltz senior coaches set the strategic direction for the whole football department, including list composition ie the structure of the list. Mick may leave the drafting of kids to specialist but last year was all over trading out Hampson, recruiting everitt and thomas

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Were you aware that in 2012 Port Power was ranked 17th in the league in list quality by champion data?

Bullshit.
Most clubs have a list management committee. The senior coach is one member of it.

Hey genius,

early days for Mick to have his hands all of their catastrophic recruiting would be...umm...lets guess shall we (not having the ears of your Collinggoodnewsmate) so early days then...The beginning...Mick comes to the club with a strong power base...runs the ship... That would be the establishment of the back to back runners up... then what after that they booted him out? No...okay so when they went back to the draft (and drafted Thomas, Pendles etc) they kicked him out then cos he did too good a job...wait...no...so after they won the flag? Silly...Maybe it was the last 2 years before he left...so that's gone very well hasn't it...From top four to where exactly? (wait I know...they have great kids coming through...Oh I know how that goes!)

Then again..which is really my point ( smug genius line here too) what the @#$%&! are you on about! You're using a Collingwood supporter's opinion 'cos you know that person is going to say 'gee we miss Mick, he was so much better than what we've got...' and really if they did say that, given your hatred of Mick, would you listen anyway? And then after not listening but somehow accepting his whispering tongue licking the hairs of your thick head, quote your sneaky licker (sorry leaker — ie bloke pissing in your pocket) to us? I think not my genius friend (hope by now you're getting the sarcasm - or do you need to phone a friend for elucidation/hallucination?)

So, my point, pointedly is that your points are full of shit, which is fine...hate is always full of shit...but to use a Collingwood expert as the font of knowledge about Mick and his failings??? I mean really, you playing dixie or what?

With rookies and senior list Waite- Maclean -Robbo- Lucas -Scotland-Garlett-Mciinnes- Temay-Duigan-Cachia Bootsma- 11 players 936 games out
We have picked up 3 - Janco- Whiley and Jones - 85 games in

Do we have 8 to add

Bullshit.
Most clubs have a list management committee. The senior coach is one member of it.

I would love to hear micks strategic view. Here we are, the window is open we need x x and x. Few mths later its closed we need to rebuild the list. Oh now we need 10 midfielders to be competitive. Ok lets bring in jaksch and liam jones and delist our fringe midfielders in brock, robbo, lucas, garlett and with the reitrement of heath. Definitely got no depth now with injuries in the mids.

I think the sooner mick goes the sooner the club has a strategic vision. At the moment it is for mick to break jocks mchale record and make it to the end of his 3rd yr and retire on a good note. All about him saving his job. Not the club as he wont be around in the future

So is there no strategic vision, or is the strategic vision to break McHale's record? Confused.

Delisted free agent: Dick
PSD: Tutt
National draft picks: 4 draft picks
Rookie draft: 3 or 4 draft picks

Big changes to be sure but we're not going to have 8 kids straight from the draft on the senior list.

Plus I think your being a bit mischievous adding the rookies in so you can add Scotland's games to the out total.

Was the reviewers name Sydney Blue or Goltzenberg?

Your cute. Your like a wife starting an argument. Go off tangent from the original point and come back with hot air and not even discussing the initial point. I wish l actually disagreed with most of your points but i dont. But as for my original point thanks for once again missing it. It was so worth the read. Not. Move on!

268 - Scotland
184 - Waite
157 - McLean
107 - Garlett
100 - Robinson
42 - Lucas

858 games that weren't going to consistently help us next year anyways.