More that a large chunk of our TPP/list make up will be spent on key position players.

If getting Carlisle allowed us to be aggressive and move on a Casboult or Jamison for a good deal, great. Instead it'll just see us with Casboult and Rowe in the twos, whilst we figure out what combination of Henderson/Carlisle should be where.

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In fact, Hendo probably wouldn't use all the TPP increase: it's just shy of 300k. That's probably Hendo, Curnow and Armfield paid for. We could sign a guy like Carlisle with plenty of room to spare.

That said, if we get a chance to shift one or two of Jones, Rowe, White or Casboult we really should take it. All of this assumes Carlisle isn't banned or banned for more than 6 months. I'd keep Jamison, because he can play FB or third tall and be an asset, where as the rest struggle to play more than one role. Fingers crossed on Giles and Foster though.

If we could shift two, would we also look at someone like Jarrad Grant? Obviously not a KPP, but is quick, kicks goals and creates a mismatch while being composed with the football. Probably what we were hoping to get out of Jones.

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I'm not saying that. Not a matter whether we have the space, rather whether it's counterproductive in bringing in Carlisle, despite all signs from the club pointing to an imbalanced playing list, both in structure and what they're being paid.

I'd rather Jarrad Grant than Watts. Cheaper if nothing else. Surely third time lucky on Dog duds.

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After a list clean up and with Judd , possibly Carrazzo to retire and Warmocks contract coming to an end too , there should be be some room to manoeuver.
It's up to SOS and the new coach, let's hope going forward they get it right.
We need a quality Tall forward with presence that can influence a game.
No more medium type with limited potential we have a few 2 to 3 goals a game type .
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I wouldn't be shocked if Jamo decides to pull up stumps also.... but he wouldn't be on megabucks.

I'm not so sure. History indicates that it's unlikely too. Look back over the last 10 years of the PSD. Pick 1 is as follows:

05: T Knobel
06: D McLaren
07: C Ackland
08: D Gourdis
09: L Jurrah
10: J McDonald
11: N Ablett
12: A Hall
13: J Lamb
14: PASS

It's a myth that having an early PSD pick will land you a gun out of contract player. It might happen, but it shouldn't be the expectation.

The biggest asset of the first PSD pick is to be able to use it during negotiations in the trade period and get ourselves a slightly better deal in some cases.

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True, but I was assuming (hoping) that SAS87 was basing that comment on his usually good mail, rather than previous history......

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Absolutely no way to Grant, he is another Jones in the making.
And I'd be keeping White. He is no star but he's a big bodied player who can play down back, up forward and also run withs and has a great work ethic and attitude. He'd be in the top 20 to keep for sure.

PSD is a joke

can we trade warnock to syd ?

Yes we need a quality tall, and should take one with our first pick (1-2 only) ..... But, we need quality midfielders with skill by foot. Build a skilled midfield and our forwards would be significantly better.

Essendon* are very difficult to deal with, although this is the first I had heard of them specifically not dealing with Carlton. Any reason, Psych? Or is it just Dodoro's general asshattery?

In this case they'd pretty much have to deal with us if we wanted Carlisle and vice versa. We'll be close enough to #1 PSD that it's a legitimate option for Carlisle to walk.

I've been seeing some proposed trades by Essendon* fans that are deluded even by their standards, eg Carlisle for Cripps straight up. Eye watering stuff.

I don't need to high school English to know that the WADA issue hasn't gone away, and is highly unlikely to have gone away by this years trade period, but if you want to gamble a spot our list on the chance then, I'll let you take English 101, with a supplementary pass.

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Name them? Leading goal kicking will be lucky to get 30 this year!! Which is 1.5 a game.....
Agree we need a 50+ KP player..............

Polec was injured for most of his time at the Lions and has had one season on, and one off at Power. What we don't need is another talented player who sooks when he doesn't get to play where and when he wants. Aish might be okay but if he is just going through the motions that doesn't say a lot about his character. We wouldn't want to give up much for him. You need to be very sure when you give up draft picks. We did well with Docherty, and Everitt has been quite good, but we could have got Alex Pearce with that draft pick. We have to get way better and more scientific with our drafting and any players we get from other clubs which was the point Trigg was making when talking about how Adelaide benchmarked players in great detail before going after Betts. For us it is more that someone played well against us, so lets get him, or someone is wants out and is prepared to let his team mates down to get what he wants - not a good fit.

Agree but we have shown a lot of interest in him. Personally I would be doing as much as possible to get 3-4 picks inside top 20. Players like Weitering, Francis, Curnow & Rice for example would do a lot more for the club in terms of talent, hope, marketing and TPP than chasing a "name" ever would.

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king kenny "quality mids with skills by foot and i would like to add some pace and our fwds will get better" this is exactly what i want our club to recruit in this year draft . By the way syd does need a ruckman .