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Trigger
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:30 pm 
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carntheblues wrote:
Kruezer is 26 and you need some players to build a side around unless you plan to build it around an untried, unproven draft pick - no matter what #.

So if were given pick 4 & 14 you would say no. Spare me.
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SurreyBlue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.
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Molly
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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Jonosc wrote:

Someone remind me how those in the know rate this draft? I seem to remember it being called the weakest in 10 years..


Not debating the rest of your post Jono.

But 2005 was roundly believed to be a terribly weak draft and 2006 a super draft. On review I think most would call 2005 stronger though.
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Trigger
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:44 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.

We know about your strike rate over the last 15 years and it is not good reading, re anything cfc. Well, we have tolerated incompetence for many a year and there is point were people become irrelevant and snipe other posters at nauseum. Go away old man!
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ThePsychologist
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:47 pm 
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Jonosc wrote:
Trading away heart and soul will not provide heart and soul.


Given our success recently and the basket case the club has been I'm not sure I would want any so called current heart and soul players. Means nothing.

Need to create a new fresh culture

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ThePsychologist
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:50 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.

We know about your strike rate over the last 15 years and it is not good reading, re anything cfc. Well, we have tolerated incompetence for many a year and there is point were people become irrelevant and snipe other posters at nauseum. Go away old man!


It's time for the new Carlton. With Bolton and SOS in charge it will be out with the old and in with the new

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Trigger
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:57 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Trigger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.

We know about your strike rate over the last 15 years and it is not good reading, re anything cfc. Well, we have tolerated incompetence for many a year and there is point were people become irrelevant and snipe other posters at nauseum. Go away old man!


It's time for the new Carlton. With Bolton and SOS in charge it will be out with the old and in with the new

We seem to be trying to get with the programme, we can only hope!! So far so good.
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ThePsychologist
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:00 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Trigger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.

We know about your strike rate over the last 15 years and it is not good reading, re anything cfc. Well, we have tolerated incompetence for many a year and there is point were people become irrelevant and snipe other posters at nauseum. Go away old man!


It's time for the new Carlton. With Bolton and SOS in charge it will be out with the old and in with the new

We seem to be trying to get with the programme, we can only hope!! So far so good.


Agree. I like what's happening. Some big decisions coming up and I believe we finally have the right people to make them

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SurreyBlue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:22 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.

We know about your strike rate over the last 15 years and it is not good reading, re anything cfc. Well, we have tolerated incompetence for many a year and there is point were people become irrelevant and snipe other posters at nauseum. Go away old man!


:lol: :lol: :lol: MM followers don't interest me. I know you support his thoughts on trading our list so I will just point to current MM trades of Jones, Everiit, Tutt, Thomas and Wood and leave it at that. Old man!
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ThePsychologist
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:23 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Trigger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Selling the farm seems like MM's philosophy....oh yeah it's trigger, got it.

We know about your strike rate over the last 15 years and it is not good reading, re anything cfc. Well, we have tolerated incompetence for many a year and there is point were people become irrelevant and snipe other posters at nauseum. Go away old man!


:lol: :lol: :lol: MM followers don't interest me. I know you support his thoughts on trading our list so I will just point to current MM trades of Jones, Everiit, Tutt, Thomas and Wood and leave it at that. Old man!


Malthouse isn't there anymore. Time to move on. New era

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SurreyBlue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:24 pm 
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Agree. Trading Kruezer however is madness. Pure and simple.
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The Rhino
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:26 pm 
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Why wouldn't you trade Kreuzer for pick 3?

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ThePsychologist
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:28 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Agree. Trading Kruezer however is madness. Pure and simple.


I don't think it's that cut and dried. He's 27 next year and injury prone. He will cost a lot to keep. Will he be around when we next play finals?

If he goes we could get Pick 3 and a gun player for the next 10 years.

There are benefits in both scenarios.

The fact he hasn't signed says to me he's going.

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ryan2000
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:35 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Sell top draft picks to just get another, tank to just get more....now repeat the process in another 5 to 10 years! The culture of the new age Blues supporter!!!


THIS!!!!!!!

Bloody hell. It wasn't so long ago that I sat in disgust at Carlton fans cheering on Melbourne so that we could win the Kreuzer Cup!!!! Now we wanna trade him for another draft pick???

Bloody madness I tell you.

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SurreyBlue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:37 pm 
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Well this is what concerns me.
This kid has bled navy blue. If we aren't signing him to maximise his value then what does that tell anyone else looking at coming over to our club? Either via draft or trade.
No reason for us supporters to abuse players such as Henderson, is there?
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Paddycripps
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:39 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
Why wouldn't you trade Kreuzer for pick 3?


Culture
Look it up !
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ryan2000
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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The Rhino wrote:
Why wouldn't you trade Kreuzer for pick 3?



Top quality player, coming into his prime and looking fit with good qualities and willing to die for the club..... Nah - why would we wanna keep him....

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SurreyBlue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:42 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
Why wouldn't you trade Kreuzer for pick 3?


Culture
Look it up !

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Thank Goodness.
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ThePsychologist
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:42 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Well this is what concerns me.
This kid has bled navy blue. If we aren't signing him to maximise his value then what does that tell anyone else looking at coming over to our club? Either via draft or trade.
No reason for us supporters to abuse players such as Henderson, is there?


Players move on. St Kilda supporters thought the same about Goddard & Dal Santo. Hasn't hurt them at all

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SurreyBlue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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ThePsychologist wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Well this is what concerns me.
This kid has bled navy blue. If we aren't signing him to maximise his value then what does that tell anyone else looking at coming over to our club? Either via draft or trade.
No reason for us supporters to abuse players such as Henderson, is there?


Players move on. St Kilda supporters thought the same about Goddard & Dal Santo. Hasn't hurt them at all


Psyc - kill me now, right now.....you have just done the unthinkable. :banghead:


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