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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:01 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:06 pm 
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Betts is a front runner and that's the best you will get
No surprise last night and remember we had betts Waite gartlett for 10 years and we won nothing


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:11 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

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C. Neither are worth what they're getting?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:14 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


Yep we showed Adelaide, much better to pay millions to Daisy whilst he sits out a couple of seasons on the sidelines!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:19 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.

C. Neither are worth what they're getting?


Betts year was worth $500k

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:26 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.


B doesn't meant we [REDACTED] up A.

Should have let Betts go, grabbed a 1st round pick compensation and let Thomas be Thomas at Collingwood.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:36 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.


B doesn't meant we [REDACTED] up A.

Should have let Betts go, grabbed a 1st round pick compensation and let Thomas be Thomas at Collingwood.


Which gives us Cripps and McCarthy and fits with the theory of taking advantage of opportunity.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:36 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:

It won't be easy with Henderson. I've got a feeling that deal might not be finalised until very late in the trade period. He is off contract and there is no chance he will stay. Therefore we are in a weak position. I've got a bad feeling Geelong will kick our arse in the negotiations and we'll end up with #28 and Josh Walker for Hendo. That will be another big loss. :mad:

If the Cats only offered pick #28 and Josh Walker I'd reject their offer and redraft Hendo with our first selection in the PSD.
We could hold him on our list for another year and try our luck again in 2016.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:48 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.


B doesn't meant we [REDACTED] up A.

Should have let Betts go, grabbed a 1st round pick compensation and let Thomas be Thomas at Collingwood.


Which gives us Cripps and McCarthy and fits with the theory of taking advantage of opportunity.


At 500k per year, Betts would have only got us Band 2 compo - a pick at the end of the 1st round - which would have meant McCarthy would have been unavailable.

Would have still had a chance at some good talent though. McStay, Crouch, Hartung, Merrett, Pearce, Taylor, J.Kolo....etc

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:57 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.


B doesn't meant we [REDACTED] up A.

Should have let Betts go, grabbed a 1st round pick compensation and let Thomas be Thomas at Collingwood.


Which gives us Cripps and McCarthy and fits with the theory of taking advantage of opportunity.


At 500k per year, Betts would have only got us Band 2 compo - a pick at the end of the 1st round - which would have meant McCarthy would have been unavailable.

Would have still had a chance at some good talent though. McStay, Crouch, Hartung, Merrett, Pearce, Taylor, J.Kolo....etc


Yeah, well, I just took it that TruBlueBrad had done the maths.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:11 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


Was thinking the same thing TBB

Betts has a great record as a flat track bully, but goes missing when the really good teams come out to play

Not saying we shouldn't have kept him...just saying he's no Ted Hopkns

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:15 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think we saw last night why you don't pay $500k a season for Eddie Betts.


A. Eddie at $500k OR
B. Thomas at $700k?

Lock in A thanks.


At their best with equal fitness, B for me

A crumbles in the pressure cooker time and time again
B thrived (yes I used the past tense) on it

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:17 pm 
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Eddie Betts kicked 63goals 25 behinds this year.


I'd say that's worth $500k.

(Dale Thomas has kicked a total of 14 goals from 25 games @ $700k)


Hell - id rather be paying Betts the $700k.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:16 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Eddie Betts kicked 63goals 25 behinds this year.


I'd say that's worth $500k.

(Dale Thomas has kicked a total of 14 goals from 25 games @ $700k)


Hell - id rather be paying Betts the $700k.


Genius, the bloke who made that decision.

Was that the same bloke who made the Waite and Laidley decision too.

Genius. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:58 am 
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Noticed Waite was playing on Laidler tonight whilst the blokes we rated higher and decided to keep were on the gas in Vegas I think!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:20 am 
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So without adjustments for academy selections, father-sons and free agency compensations could we have the following changes to our senior list?

Out Judd In Pick 1
Out Henderson In Pick 9 or ...
Out Yarran In Pick 12 or ...
Out Carrazzo In Pick 20
Out Bell In Pick 21 or ...
Out Ellard In Pick 38
Out Watson In Pick 56
Out Giles In Pick 74

5 picks inside the top 21 would be nice.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:31 am 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Eddie Betts kicked 63goals 25 behinds this year.


I'd say that's worth $500k.


Yep, considering the average AFL player earns about 300k per season, I'd suggest 500k for a player who kicks 63 goals is a simple equation.
As for the view he goes missing in finals, his goal average is higher in finals than it is in H&A games.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:10 am 
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FINALS
2009 1 goal v Bears
2010 0 goals v South
2011 4 goals v Druggies
2011 1 Goal v West Coast (druggies)
2015 5 Goals v Footscray
2015 0 Goals v Hawks


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:16 am 
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2013 club29.....

Has had a mixed bag in finals, but it's probably more his recent record against Sydney and Hawthorn that stands out as being very poor.

How much of that is due to not being able to cope with certain opponents, and how much is "Of course a forward is going to get less of the ball in games they lose" is the debate.....

Nick Smith always had a good record on him, and recently Hawthorn has used Ben Stratton who is able to match him on the ground, but also has him covered in the air with Betts being so good overhead for someone of his height.

It's also comes down a team effort to close down the space that he has to work in the forward 50.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:24 am 
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club29 wrote:
FINALS
2009 1 goal v Bears
2010 0 goals v South
2011 4 goals v Druggies
2011 1 Goal v West Coast (druggies)
2015 5 Goals v Footscray
2015 0 Goals v Hawks



Are we pretending 2013 didn't exist?
2 goals per game average from a small forward in finals is an excellent record IMHO.

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