Can you confirm what medical he failed and with whom please?

Great to hear that Kreuzer has signed up. We need his leadership. Now we can delist Warnock.

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Silvagni

The pies for starters.

Did he fail a medical at Collingwood, or did he 'fail a medical' at Collingwood?

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He failed nothing other than signing our contract immediately!

2 years only.. he must be touch and go on the medical..

2 years is a very smart decision what ever way you look at it.

He was president when we lost Garlett for pick 61, got Jones for 46 & lost Robbo & Waite for nothing yeh?

Good deals

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Whilst the crows wouldn't be rapt with the deal, its probably a stronger overall package than what the cats would offer in isolation. AFL points table would put 20+27 as equivalent of pick 8. Whilst cats might offer 2 X 1st round (2015/16), the future pick carries downside risk (if cats rise up ladder with dangerfield/henderson addition). Imo, the other appeal would be a reuniting yarran with betts - a happier yarran, developed in the right environment -> remember those mcleod comparisons a few years back? (obviously yarran not at same level)

From a carlton perspective, I didn't want to go further than 3 teams for the trade and thus kept it as

blues -> yarran + henderson + 19 -> 12 + 48 + walker + cats 2016 1st and 2nd round (effective 7 spot upgrade of 2nd round pick, 3rd round picks, mid 1st round + 2nd rounds in 2016 + walker as steak knives)

Personally, I'd look for the following from there...
1. 12 -> GWS -> plowman + bugg + phillips (can't see GWS being interested in walker when they have a host of KPP)
2. combining 2 X 2016 2nd round picks (blues + cats) and offering it to either Essendon*/melbourne/brisbane/saints for a 1st round pick (this year or next). Most teams would be expecting blues to remain bottom 2 in 2016 so they'd be projecting picks 19/20 + mid-late 20s pick for a pick around 5-12 in a deeper/stronger draft

Net result

2015 draft -> picks 1 (weitering), 37 (rice), 48 (SOSOS), 56 (rookie upgrades) etc + walker, bugg, plowman, phillips
2016 draft -> 3 X 1st round picks (blues/cats + other team), 3rd round pick etc

Whilst there would be potential to add more 2015 picks by trading bell, casboult etc, I'd bank top 20 picks for a stronger draft next year where possible, or to bring in young players from other teams (highly rated sub-23 yos only)

For 2016
- throw $$$ at FA (hartlett)
- pry out big names from another club using $$$ + ability to wave up to 3 X 1st round picks for right player/s i.e. top liners from GCS/GWS like o'meara/shiel <- if we don't get good value, go the draft.

The 3 components are the one trade (but broken up into 'units') - you wouldn't pull the trigger on any subset of the trades without the others -> fair value is the net trade result.

We were pretty quick to let Kruez go when Collingwood started sniffing and we thought we might get a number 2 pick. Loyaltys a two way streak. Let's just be happy he's signed on and back on board. I don't begrudge either party the right to do what they did. That's what free agency is all about and we may as well get used to it. Kruez will bleed for us again next year, I have no doubt... (Just hoping it's not of the medical variety

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Number 17 - come on down!

When matty comes out and says that he did a medical at another club then you can comment on that fact. Do not put a player down when it may not be true

Hope we find a couple of QUICKS to add to our list cause it seems we are recruiting all big fellas.(hill smith pupolo) for an example

Weren't we all hard-on'd for pick 2 not long ago?

Sure. What's your point? Most people here would let Kreuz go to get pick 2. But when it became clear that we might just get a second rounder, I think most people are happy he is staying.

Could have had all of them!

Bootsma before Hill
Watson before Smith
Puopolo went at 66 and we chose Luke Mitchell at 45.

Anyway, sorry to open old wounds !

If we take this Walker pumpkin, this club has learned nothing and should burn.
Add to that Plowman and Carlisle too, unless we can get them in the PSD, the way to rebuild is THROUGH THE FU%*EN DRAFT.
When will this pri*k of a club realise that spots on a list should be valuable and not wasted on the likes of Jones Tutt Ellard Armfield Warnock Rowe etc etc
It's one thing to make recruiting and drafting mistakes every club does but we compound it by not admitting and or realising it
FFS Carlton take all our picks we get to the draft, this draft is fine there will be talent left late

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

You all realise that nothing has actually happened yet, right?

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#GUILTY

Seriously, why do we bother with these ridiculously complicated multi club player + picks + upgrades propositions? They never, ever happen.

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