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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:32 pm 
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If the club does write to the AFL, I'd like them to publish the letter on the clubs website.


Dear AFL,
how are you all?
how are the wife and kids?
Just wondering,
can we have some extra draft picks?
that would be really good.
thanks,
love
Carlton. xx


Or for those familiar with the old Derek and Clive we could start with:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:40 pm 
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
somethig about Jane Mansfield rings a bell....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:25 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
I don't buy the whole 'they must ask' bit. I'm convinced the rules would state that draft order is ultimately at the discretion of the AFL.

This has been brought up on other forums that there is nothing in the rules to say a club must apply.
Yet Gil has stated the AFL cannot help a club unless they submit a formal application.
So which is it?
Interestingly in the Herald Sun today there was an article on Gold Coast needing an extra $2 mill in their salary cap to retain players and at the end it says that the Suns will apply for and receive a PP.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:32 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
well doc,
it's not as if we can talk about the great wins we are having right now,
so hey! 300 pages it is. :thumbsup:

Lets set ourselves a challenge.
300 pages before the deadline.
So if we have 73 days we need about 4 pages a day.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:38 pm 
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kezza wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
well doc,
it's not as if we can talk about the great wins we are having right now,
so hey! 300 pages it is. :thumbsup:

Lets set ourselves a challenge.
300 pages before the deadline.
So if we have 73 days we need about 4 pages a day.


pffft too easy kezza.
tell us about your childhood everyone. :razz:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:43 pm 
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Surely the club will have a strategy to get the PP without having to do a written request for one.

Maybe we should send all the newspaper articles stating our dire position and needing an extra pick in the draft to the AFL to trigger Gil's requirements


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:22 pm 
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BigKev wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
If the club does write to the AFL, I'd like them to publish the letter on the clubs website.


Dear AFL,
how are you all?
how are the wife and kids?
Just wondering,
can we have some extra draft picks?
that would be really good.
thanks,
love
Carlton. xx


Or for those familiar with the old Derek and Clive we could start with:

"Hello c..t"


Pity the bloke at the top of the AFL tree isn't named Colin - would be perfect.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:29 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Interestingly in the Herald Sun today there was an article on Gold Coast needing an extra $2 mill in their salary cap to retain players and at the end it says that the Suns will apply for and receive a PP.


Are they serious? In that case, surely Carlton deserves a salary cap exception as well, since it's hard to retain/attract FAs to the bottom team.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:36 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
kezza wrote:
Interestingly in the Herald Sun today there was an article on Gold Coast needing an extra $2 mill in their salary cap to retain players and at the end it says that the Suns will apply for and receive a PP.


Are they serious? In that case, surely Carlton deserves a salary cap exception as well, since it's hard to retain/attract FAs to the bottom team.



Spot on jump onto it immediatley and do due diligence for the club, this is how and Cain Liddle can earn his bickies.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:33 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
I don't buy the whole 'they must ask' bit. I'm convinced the rules would state that draft order is ultimately at the discretion of the AFL.

This has been brought up on other forums that there is nothing in the rules to say a club must apply.
Yet Gil has stated the AFL cannot help a club unless they submit a formal application.
So which is it?
Interestingly in the Herald Sun today there was an article on Gold Coast needing an extra $2 mill in their salary cap to retain players and at the end it says that the Suns will apply for and receive a PP.


Yes, which is it?

It will look especially silly for GC to get a priority pick whilst having "maybe" won 3 or 4 MORE games than Carlton.

If it requires a formal application, then I suggest Carlton will change their mind and put one in. When Cain made the decision a while ago the clubs on-field performances were not as pathetic as they are now. So we reserve the right to change our mind.

But again, an extra pick will do little unless we fix our deplorable medical and fitness regime. Something is fundamentally broken there, we need to get our best guys on the flamin' park.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:38 pm 
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On the flip side no-one is suggesting we’re tanking this year.


I'll just put this one back in here.

We'll put in an application.

Nothing surer.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:43 pm 
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dlb99 wrote:
kezza wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
I don't buy the whole 'they must ask' bit. I'm convinced the rules would state that draft order is ultimately at the discretion of the AFL.

This has been brought up on other forums that there is nothing in the rules to say a club must apply.
Yet Gil has stated the AFL cannot help a club unless they submit a formal application.
So which is it?
Interestingly in the Herald Sun today there was an article on Gold Coast needing an extra $2 mill in their salary cap to retain players and at the end it says that the Suns will apply for and receive a PP.


Yes, which is it?

It will look especially silly for GC to get a priority pick whilst having "maybe" won 3 or 4 MORE games than Carlton.

If it requires a formal application, then I suggest Carlton will change their mind and put one in. When Cain made the decision a while ago the clubs on-field performances were not as pathetic as they are now. So we reserve the right to change our mind.

But again, an extra pick will do little unless we fix our deplorable medical and fitness regime. Something is fundamentally broken there, we need to get our best guys on the flamin' park.




Agree an internal review and shake up of footy operations is necessary after the season from hell.
Of course it takes multiple circumstances as always for such a poor year.
Can anyone verify if we've ever won just 1 game in a season and which year ? thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:34 pm 
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My theory is that the AFL has told Carlton not to apply. There is no other plausible explanation.

It's a business and in business if you can take advantage of any legal grant, tax deduction or any other government assistance you are duty bound to do so in the interests of shareholders.

By not applying for a PP the club is acting negligently and it's about time members wrote in to the club and expressed their views on the matter.

I am sick and tired of this club, its Board and the executives empowered to run the club doing so in the interest of the AFL and its Brand. It's time to start making sound, rational decisions based on the best interests of their loyal and long suffering supporter.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:55 pm 
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bmaurizio wrote:
Can anyone verify if we've ever won just 1 game in a season and which year ? thanks


No. Previous worst was 1897 and 1901 with 2 wins.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:33 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
kezza wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
well doc,
it's not as if we can talk about the great wins we are having right now,
so hey! 300 pages it is. :thumbsup:

Lets set ourselves a challenge.
300 pages before the deadline.
So if we have 73 days we need about 4 pages a day.


pffft too easy kezza.
tell us about your childhood everyone. :razz:


Twas always raining in Denley Moor...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:40 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
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Can anyone verify if we've ever won just 1 game in a season and which year ? thanks


No. Previous worst was 1897 and 1901 with 2 wins.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:19 am 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
bmaurizio wrote:
Can anyone verify if we've ever won just 1 game in a season and which year ? thanks


No. Previous worst was 1897 and 1901 with 2 wins.




Can you smell what we're cooking!!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:33 am 
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Nobody in the media has said the PP is working the way it was supposed to. In fact they are all saying it is stuffed and helping create the two tier comp.
Of course teams at the top think it's wonderful but that's because they are skimming the cream and playing off n finals every year as a result.
I mentioned this elsewhere but I want to bring it up again (regurgitate it, come might say).
FA is in place so the players can move to the club of their choice. I get that but the compo system is what mucks it up. The AFL hands out the compo. What if there were no compo from the AFL at all but the cub of choice had to pay it? The player is still choosing the club but what if the club doesn't think he is worth it? What if the AFL dfecides Lynch is worth two picks, one top five and one top twenty and (Richmond) has to give them to the AFL who will then pass them on to the GCS? (Richmond), if they want Lynch badly enough, will pay. If not, Lynch has to nominate a second club, stay where he is or go to the draft. All of a sudden we have no free kick to a top club. Yes, they don't have to trade with the club because Lynch has nominated them as is his right under FA but they have to trade with the AFL to make sure Lynch gets is wish and the losing club gets a fair go.

We have already seen the F/S rule stuffed up because Geelong's past players were good producers of boys and they got too many free hits and ended up winning a flag on the back of them, so why can't the same point system be applied to the FA system?

I seriously want this to be discussed somewhere where it gets an airing in the press or whatever so if you think it's a good idea and you can twitter, tweet or otherwise message someone who might bring it up for discussion, please do it. I think all avenues have to be explored.

End of rant.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:46 am 
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Caroline Wilson has now changed her opinion. About 8 weeks ago she said Carlton didn’t deserve a priority pick, now on Footy Classified she stated, “Carlton will put their hand up for a pp and the AFL will say yes.” Both GC and Carlton deserve one? “Absolutely” although it seemed Caro was more emphatic that GC deserved one going by her tone.

Either way a pp at pick 18-20 basically amounts to very little when free agency/trading helps strong clubs. strong clubs can make their clubs stronger via free agency. GC should get a compensation pick for Lynch whether he goes in the draft or not. Present system GC gets nothing if he goes in draft.

PP needs to be pick 3 for Carlton and 4 for GC before trading even starts. The AFL don’t have the guts to do this though after the tanking allegations from over a decade ago


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:44 am 
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I think you’ll find if the AFL do hand an early PP it’ll go: CFC #1, GC #2 followed by the normal picks.

Let’s just hope they really think we’re stuffed and give both clubs a second PP pre round 2 or pre round one 2019.


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