Oh, and Dean is the one to be dropped before any other defenders, he wasn’t fit and ready for seniors, he was cramping badly in the last. Nothing to do with ability.

Absolutely no chance this will happen.

We need to stop kidding ourselves into thinking Voss will change his ways.

Are they quicker than Cripps? If so, get them in.



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Failing the above, we need to cut out a couple of talls and insert runners.

Out: Saad (inj), Reidy (two rucks not needed), Dean (cramping), Fogarty

In: Boyd, Evans, Carroll, Acres

Positional changes:
1. Swap Kemp and McGovern
2. Second ruck duties shared between McKay and Cripps.
3. Cripps and Hewitt are not in the middle at the same time.
4. Williams plays back, forward or middle.

B: Boyd, Weitering, Kemp
HB: Carroll, L Young, Florent
C: O Hollands, Cripps, Acres
HF: Hayward, McKay, E Hollands
F: Ainsworth, McGovern, Evans
Foll: Pittonet, Walsh, Smith
Int: Williams, Hewitt, Chesser, Lord, Moir

Emerg: Derkson, B Camporeale, L Camporeale


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Does Kemp have the speed and burst of pace to play on ball?

lol... hell no. plus, he doesn't have a very high footy iq to go on ball

VFL report


https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/19665 ... tice-match

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F........that.
The slowest midfield in the comp, flanked by the slowest wings in the comp.
Richmond for the win if that happens.

We need more speed in the middle of the ground, agree with Cripps and Hewett not having CBAs together.
Cripps to rest in the F50 when he can.
Put Ollie back in defence, Florent on the wing and Williams in the centre.
I agree with adding Boyd and Carroll, but only if it matches up with their talls, if not put McLovin back there also.
I do like McLovin going forwards, but prefer him at CHF running up the ground and leaving McKay in the goal square.
I'd put Dean in the back pocket and Kemp starting on the bench.
And I'd like to see Byrne get a run and give Evans some midfield minutes.

Out: Saad (inj), Reidy (Young can ruck), Moir, Fogarty

In: Boyd, Evans, Carroll, Byrne

B: Boyd, Weitering, Dean
HB: Carroll, L Young, O Hollands
C: Florent, Cripps, Chesser
HF: Hayward, McGovern, E Hollands
F: Ainsworth, McKay, Evans
Foll: Pittonet, Walsh, Smith
Int: Williams, Hewett, Byrne, Lord, Kemp

Emerg: Derksen, Moir, F Young, Ison

Decent chance we’ll see all but Newman?

Punt McGovern into the sea & move Williams forward.

Have a bit more faith in the young blokes early on. A hapless first-choice midfield is a failure of game management.

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Why do we want to move our best KP forward from last week in Kemp? I don't get some people.

We are one of the best contested teams in the comp. The issue is not speed it is what we do with the ball when we win it.
The ball travels faster than the player.
We don't need speed we need ball skills.
Recruitment department needs to focus on football players who use the ball properly

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Maybe we’re not that great a contested ball team but other teams just decide to save energy and let us have it as they know we’ll give it to them soon enough…

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Irrespective of pace, we should not be letting Gulden, Warner and Heeney run freely out of the centre.
Set up at least one or two players defensively and block their run both with a bump as they try to take off and block the exit.

I think Williams is much more useful in the backline rotating through the midfield. He sees opportunities others cannot see. And has better skills than most.

I would also use the bench in a smarter way. It feels like we haven’t thought it through. I would be using it to maintain better run for longer. Or to ease back a good player coming back from injury (Carroll, Cowan, Newman in a couple of weeks) Or to inject a younger player who can have impact in bursts but not yet able to string for consistent quarters together (Moir, Byrne, Flynn).

Hopefully, the Swans game provides an excellent case study for Voss to illustrate the difference b/w what we did when we were winning, and what we did (or didn’t do) when we fell apart.

Everything for this season is riding on our next 4 quarters of football.

It’s only “not a speed issue” if we win the contest (see first half vs swans), once we start loosing the contest (or if it’s even halved) speed is very much the issue (see second half vs swans).

I think we need both.
Our midfield is too slow and under too much pressure as a result.
The fumbling from the players under pressure was evident.

The only issue with dropping McLovin and as frustrating as he is, he was one of our better players last week.
His disp. eff was 87.5%, his kicking eff. was 83.3% from 12 kicks and he had 7 1%s and 421m gained.
He's well ahead of many other players and especially ahead of our forwards in Kemp (5 clangers and 50% KE), Moir and McKay.
Acres should never play for us again unless we can add more speed through the middle or he's played out of the back line.

Correct re: Gov. People just hate him whatever he does.

You are both right.

The key issue considering what u have said here is fitness. In one part of the game even when we didnt win the contest we could "keep up with them" or spread and move the ball on with pace. That stuff just didnt happen after half time because the players were gassed. Sydney held back some of their mids leading up to either of qtr or half time and they ran riot because they were effectively fresh. That to me says FITNESS is a key problem once again. If we want to continue to be both "contested" and moving the ball on with pace most of the time.

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We both agreed on this at the footy sinners, and thought we had Derksen ahead of him, but Dean was good, and maybe the humidity may have been a big factor for his cramping.

Gov didn't do much to get tired or cramp imo. He was the weakest link, and if want to be an attacking backline we have to improve on Gov and Young

I prefer Young as a KPF/ ruck than reidy. I was hoping O'Keefe was going to make KPF his own this year.

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Thats interesting to hear - thanks.

McKay had moments - the best of which was providing an outlet mark option from a kick in. When he went forward we got nothing but that was probably more so due to the horrific delivery.

Why notmix it up and put Gov CHF? give it shot. No harm in trying...

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