This is something i brought up in the match discussion thread & maybe some training goers could help. Do the boys practice shots on goal (set shots or on the run ) regularly?

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You would surely hope they do Kevin. Its difficult to simulate match day pressure at training though.

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He actually got a vote on Channel 9.

yes well he gets a lot of the ball - think campo!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Six votes, actually ...

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Thats true TBB and maybe in being over critical but poor kicking really cost us V Hawks last week and apart form 1st quarter doesnt seem to have improved this week.

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No, you're spot on Kevin. We were lucky that Richmond kicked poorly for goal also, but our fate was in our own hands. Whitnall, Waite, Fevola all missed gettable shots.

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m8, I was swearing at the TV like you wouldn't believe, then I realised there is still 17 weeks to go Thought I beter save a few swear words for other games.

What the F@#k has happened to our great club ?

Yeah, Stevens is very depressing when you compare him to Camporeale, if that's your mind set. Stevens is paid just as much and is delivering just as much. Houlihan is paid way way less, and is getting much more ot the ball. Plus doing better things with it.

I don't have anything against Camporeale or Stevens, and watching tonight, they play the same, and get paid the same.

This:

Pivotal moment of the match: Late in the second quater, Denis moves Whitnal on to Richo. Why?

I understand that Richo was getting a bit of the ball, but you have to back your players, and trust that Whits will damage them more than Richo damages us. Which was the case at the time. Even if we allow Denis this move (cause Whits did quiten down Richo for a time) why would you leave Whits in defence in the last quater, when Richo was getting lots of it? Get Lance up forward where he can do some damage!

Prior to tonight, I have neither been a Pagan hater, nor a Pagan lover. I have adopted a wait and see attitude. He has had a lot to do, to bring us back to being competitive. But tonight is the final straw for me. He just does not seem to be a good game day coach. Plan A fails, and he runs out of ideas.

Note to Denis: If you are tanking, let us all in on the secret so we don't get our hopes up every week. If you are not tanking, get down to the race track, or the senior citizens hall, and leave my club in the hands of someone who actually knows what they are doing.

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My rant: Simmo is a back pocket was a shocker.
Lappin had a stinker. Turnover king.... and im praying he doesnt turn out to be Campo MKII for the rest of the year.

As for the result. Im actually quite happy we lost in the end. Say we had beaten Sydney and the Tigers. In the cold light of day, a 3-2 record wouldve been very very flattering for our list. I dont want to win crap games like this and get ahead of ourselves ala 2004. Lets test the kids... and if we finish last and win 4 or 5, trade for some picks, im sure we'll be better off than getting 8 wins and flattering ourselves.

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Thornton was actually getting a bath and so he had to do something. However, he made the worst decision possible. He moved our playmaker away from the action. If I was an opposition coach then I would be laughing that Lance was not running around at CHF. He does enormous damage there. I don't know why he didn't try Saddington (may not be up to it) or Walker on Richo. It would have been better leaving Thornton on Richo than moving Lance there.

Correct! Given that Plan B didn't work out then he should have gone back to Plan A at 3/4 time. We had to win the game and so should have made the play so that they had to worry about it. As it was we were just trying to hold the floodgates from opening.

One thing that did cross my mind over the last few minutes though. At least we will get a nice draft pick at the end of the year. Pity it is not two.

In the channel McChins post game interview Denis put the loss down to these two reasons.

1: Richmond rebounded quickly on the kick ins after points. (What about our kick ins Denis? Richmond kicked more points than us!)

2: The whole game was a game of errors and turn overs, and we made more.

That's it. All questions asked of him, he turned around to these two points; and the explanation for these two points was the obligatory "we have a very young team, blah, blah, blah."

What about moving Lance down back Denis?!

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I think Anyone is better than Camporeale... Stevens doesnt waste time arguing all game.. and he doesnt point to others as much... Campo gets less real ball.. does less with it.. wastes time arguing with evceryone.. and directs alot of traffic .. probably more than anyone in the AFl...

Again youre comparing apples with bananas...

Not even hairsplitting this time.

I think the captain sets the tone.......

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Just to change tack, what I find disturbing about tonight is that we were 3 goals up at quarter time and I was supremely confident at the time that we would at very least go on and win the match. Yes Richmond missed a few even in that first quarter but I just thought that we looked really good going forward and controlled a lot of the play.

Then as soon as the siren went for the second quarter for whatever reason the game just changed and at times we were barely hanging on and spared only by some wayward kicking for goal. It just doesn't make sense though, why did we have a good first quarter but 3 average to poor ones after that? We only kicked 6 goals after quarter time but if you said to me at quarter time we'd finish with 11 goals for the match I wouldn't have believed you. This for me is the baffling thing out of tonight...

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Do you want apples, bananas or mango for $500,000?

I don't mind apples and bananas...good...but not great.

Mango is superb...but there is none.

Not baffling at all. Denis moved Lance in to the back line, and it all went to $h!t. Should have left him forward where he could do some damage.

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