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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:39 pm 
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I'll be very dissapointed if we miss out on the PP this season.

The reality is Melbourne were missing three of their most important players and played poorly. It was great to see our young players perform and to see them sing the song at the end of the game.

However the future is what I care about.....this victory will be forgotten in a few days. Obtaining a bonus top 20 pick in this draft is very important!!

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I'll be very dissapointed if we miss out on the PP this season.

The reality is Melbourne were missing three of their most important players and played poorly. It was great to see our young players perform and to see them sing the song at the end of the game.

However the future is what I care about.....this victory will be forgotten in a few days. Obtaining a bonus top 20 pick in this draft is very important!!


Attaboy Humpers, good to see another who understands the long term ramifications.

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oh you are so right, next time the kid wants to get excited I'll just say... no no son, we at Carlton do not do that.

Hmm maybe I'll tell him to barrack for the dees - no need for passion there.


The fact remains sailorman all your grand theories count for nought in the light of day.

We won. Regardless of whether we should not or should, we did. Enjoy it

Leave your robust need for my way or the highway for another day. Simple really.

We won.

At the start of the game - na didn't care (and isn't that sad)

Today - do not care (well maybe I do a little bit)

But as it happened, as the young kids dominated their young kids it was good to see them get a win

it was good to see Denis get a win (yeah I know we all want him sacked, still he's just a man - to the tune of I don't know how to love him ' he's just a coach, and we've had so many coaches before, in oh so many ways, he's just one more....' - because despite all his weaknesses he is trying hard to turn this club around. I was happy for me, it is a lot of money for a teacher and sometimes it helps to enjoy the game rather than just sitting there pretending its fine to cop a belting. Most especially though, I was happy for the Carlton people. Seeing them happy. Football is not just about premeirships - Carlton forgot that and it almost killed this club - its about people and some people invest a lot of their time and happiness in this club - rightly or wrongly is irrelevant. They do.

On the train was an old couple smiling as proud as grandparents after a birth, a group of girls singing the song, my son chatting to another lad, both wearing their jumpers with pride, a few blokes going on about the kids that player, about Walker and Bentick and so on (and those kids deserve to be talked about - yes I know later, later) a Japanese couple asking what the fuss was about and so on. People.

Yes we need to build the list.

Yes we need to regain our competitive edge.

Yes yes yes yes.

And as a club we must take care of the people that love this jumper - that we are still not doing in many ways, so the people take what they can.

We won. Many were happy. I joined in with their happiness because in the end sport's ability to connect people is far more important than a couple of picks. - its why most go; even those 'scrays that are still denigrated, or the old Saints fans we seem to still feel superior towards, they go for the humanity of it.

Last night coming home we were part of the humanity of that bluebaggerness. Now I could have withdrawn and moped about being so close to losing a kid. Hell I could have yelled at them to keep it down, that we bluebagger people do not look upon a win the way lesser beings do, that we cheat and buy and plot and do everything far better than anyone else (if only the damn AFL would let us).

I chose not to. I chose to enjoy the win with my smiling, happy son.

The only mistake I made was logging on to this site.....

And that is the real sad thing about the win. We are not allowed to enjoy it. The Draft pick police see to that.


Last night I copped a warning for calling someone a moron.

I think those needing to bag the win should all have copped warnings for trolling. Just keep them away for a day or two, let the others enjoy their win, then come in in the cold hard light of Football Rationalism and Football Correctness, and explain to us how our reckless, fickle, stupid, sad, pathetic, supporting of wins is destroying this club.

Hell who knows, some of us may have even listened. 8)


Geez, after Elliotts reign you would have thought the penny would have dropped about just how precious these draft picks are, but no. The same people who would have been abusing the hell out of Elliott and Parkin for not planning for the future at every moment during 2002,03,04 are the same ones now ooooh’ing and aaaaah’ing over a meaningless win late in the season. The same people who are oooooh’ing and aaaaah’ing about Marc Murphy this year would have been there round 22 last year screaming their guts out desperate for some immediate thrills.

Dannyboy, perhaps we should look at offloading our first pick this year, we could get Mal Michael and Akermanis with pick 2 in the draft, just imagine how much happier you and your son would be then. This fantastic trade would probably amount to an extra couple of wins for the year, to hell with the future, it’s about right now. Imagine how good it would feel coming home on the train singing the song 8 times for the year instead of 6 times in 2007. When you are 80 you can sit down with your son and talk about the good old days, 15 year careers of Gibbs or Hansen playing for Carlton will pale in significance to that extra couple of wins Michael and Akermanis gave us in 2007 and the joy of the train ride home that night.


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Fev just said winning more games and not winning another spoon is more important to him than winning the Coleman!

I think we need a new Talking Tanking forum for all the tankers to get together and share their misery over our win yesterday! :roll:


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Fev just said winning more games and not winning another spoon is more important to him than winning the Coleman!


What else do you expect him to say after he has already put his hand up for the captaincy after Kouta ?? :roll:

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see CG you are still unable to understand. Step out of the fantasy world you live in. You do not influence the result. Not a tiny weeny little itsey bitsy speck of a mote of a fart of a memory of a thought of an influence - less even.

So that leaves us with two choices.

Worry about that which you cannot influence, fret that the boys are wrong to go out and strive to win,

or enjoy the win.

I chose the latter Will every time.

Its not about what is best for the club - that is such a crap argument by people with egos bigger than their brains. The real question is NOW that we have won how should I feel? That is all. How should I feel?

I choose to feel happy for the lads.


you choose to pretend some sort of clear-sighted understanding of the very things you have no influence over. Go right ahead.

Build the temple and wait for Mohammad - should be a long wait though...so enjoy the sound of crickets.....

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Condolences to the tanking crew - it must have gutted you all to see a Carlton side that wanted to and did win. It must have really hurt to see Carlos and Blackers sing the song for the first time after two months of busting their guts without victory. How cruel also to see those exciting youngsters already on our list like Simmo, Walks, T-Bird and Fish gain further confidence. And as if to rub salt into the wound, all of those hardy souls that had the audacity to turn up and barrack for our side against a mob playing for a top four spot - fancy those fans actually enjoying the result! How selfish of them - don't they realise this puts pick 20 in jepardy?!! Jeez - they probably don't even realise who that is!

Stay brave tankers, don't worry if a few extra misguided Carlton fans turn up and actually barrack for and hope for a win next week, and then again against our most hated foe, they don't understand the value of the welfare queue.


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do we have to accept the 4 points if we win?

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budzy wrote:
do we have to accept the 4 points if we win?

:P


Now there is a scenario that would please both camps. :wink:

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Condolences to the tanking crew - it must have gutted you all to see a Carlton side that wanted to and did win. It must have really hurt to see Carlos and Blackers sing the song for the first time after two months of busting their guts without victory. How cruel also to see those exciting youngsters already on our list like Simmo, Walks, T-Bird and Fish gain further confidence. And as if to rub salt into the wound, all of those hardy souls that had the audacity to turn up and barrack for our side against a mob playing for a top four spot - fancy those fans actually enjoying the result! How selfish of them - don't they realise this puts pick 20 in jepardy?!! Jeez - they probably don't even realise who that is!

Stay brave tankers, don't worry if a few extra misguided Carlton fans turn up and actually barrack for and hope for a win next week, and then again against our most hated foe, they don't understand the value of the welfare queue.


Well put!

Sheik,why did you listen for that quarter and a half?

If you are so keen on the tank, why bother?

What was is that you were wanting to hear?

Carlton getting shat on?
Houla squibbing it?
Walker not living up to his reputation?
Fevola spitting the dummy?
Whitnall being run over due to lack of pace?
The clanger count mounting?
A team without heart?

Did our performance upset your stock standard post match tirade of "i told you so or casting of the "give them the sack award?

What was it that you were wanting to hear?

You stated again recently that you would not put in to save this Club in its present condition,might i suggest on behalf of yesterdays battlers that you stick your cash where the sun don't shine!


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It's like praying backwards.

It's like being proud of being on the dole.

It's like supporting Collingwood for a little while whilst saying you're a Carlton supporter.

It's like spew and pus and bile with tinsel thrown over it.


Respect Carlton supporters and players right to celebrate a win.


I hope we smash every team for the rest of the season. If we don't, and end up with the priority pick, then I'll support that player with similar passion. But any stomach acids rising in my guts are strictly for Carlton wins.


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7dominator wrote:
Well put!

Sheik,why did you listen for that quarter and a half?

If you are so keen on the tank, why bother?

What was is that you were wanting to hear?

Carlton getting shat on?
Houla squibbing it?
Walker not living up to his reputation?
Fevola spitting the dummy?
Whitnall being run over due to lack of pace?
The clanger count mounting?
A team without heart?

Did our performance upset your stock standard post match tirade of "i told you so or casting of the "give them the sack award?

What was it that you were wanting to hear?

You stated again recently that you would not put in to save this Club in its present condition,might i suggest on behalf of yesterdays battlers that you stick your cash where the sun don't shine!


You actually think that pile of crap deserves a serious reply ..............

I was considering writing a lengthy retort but I can't be fagged giving you that amount of time and grey matter.

Now go away, you are an annoying little man who has nothing better to do than stalk me on the internet.

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TheSheik wrote:
7dominator wrote:
Well put!

Sheik,why did you listen for that quarter and a half?

If you are so keen on the tank, why bother?

What was is that you were wanting to hear?

Carlton getting shat on?
Houla squibbing it?
Walker not living up to his reputation?
Fevola spitting the dummy?
Whitnall being run over due to lack of pace?
The clanger count mounting?
A team without heart?

Did our performance upset your stock standard post match tirade of "i told you so or casting of the "give them the sack award?

What was it that you were wanting to hear?

You stated again recently that you would not put in to save this Club in its present condition,might i suggest on behalf of yesterdays battlers that you stick your cash where the sun don't shine!


You actually think that pile of crap deserves a serious reply ..............

I was considering writing a lengthy retort but I can't be fagged giving you that amount of time and grey matter.

Now go away, you are an annoying little man who has nothing better to do than stalk me on the internet.


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Pretty typical Sheik,fail to answer the question?

You have had plenty to say on this tanking issue all i have asked you is what you were actually expecting to hear on the radio....Pretty simple really..

As for going away,sorry, see i am a paid up member here,as i was at the CSC?


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7dominator wrote:
Pretty typical Sheik,fail to answer the question?

You have had plenty to say on this tanking issue all i have asked you is what you were actually expecting to hear on the radio....Pretty simple really..

As for going away,sorry, see i am a paid up member here,as i was at the CSC?


Get the message, I don't care what you think !!!

You're confusing me with someone who actually gives a shit about what you write.

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yep you've got us all convinced of that one :lol:

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I don't know why this gets such a big debate. We try to win every game and at the end of the year we finish where we deserve to. There is no tanking.

Hey Sheik 2 words - Restraining Order :wink:

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Very wise words TheGame.


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'I don't know why this gets such a big debate. We try to win every game and at the end of the year we finish where we deserve to. There is no tanking. '

spot on Game - which must be about the only time (apart from both barracking for Carlton that is) that I've agreed with you! :shock:

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