hey jezza "lets run a couple of miles around the park pulling tyres full of bricks"....he was bloody basic but in his day very very effective....

i loved the '79 GF....5 minutes from the end and he did his ankle.....in so much pain had to go down the tunnel only to be dragged out and carried around the ground on HIS team's shoulders

anyway back to the point......despite memories such as jezza we have had plenty of softies through the years........the boys of 2006 should hold their heads up high

I do think Wallace has some good aspects to his coaching but I also reckon overtime he would wear a bit thin on the players perhaps quicker than other coaches.As one Tiger supporter said on AW last night that if the Tiges dont progress to the finals in 2007 then questions will be asked about Wallace's coaching again.

Whilst I think it may be good for promoting the club they coach I reckon blokes like Sheedy and Wallace are in the media too much.Isnt coaching an AFL team time consuming enough in terms of time constraints.

Having read the story, I'm not sure why he would even contemplate coming to DPs defence.

I didn't know that DP needing defending until I read the story.

In today's Herald Sun he states that Kouta should play on for next year and that he has a lot to offer - WTF!

As a coach he is far too visible and whilst that is not a problem if you are plugging your own club, commentating on other teams and players and coaches is another. He even picks Plough's best team of the week on WLF.

In lieu of what Nathan Brown stupidly said about steroids, it's any wonder that he other coaches didn't come out and bag him for it.

The reason that they didn't is because - you just don't make those comments.

He should pull his head in and only comment on the Richmond Football Club.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Agro I dont know about Jesse Smith but tell me this if a fight broke out in a bar who would you want behind you

Houla -Squibs
Kouta - soft unaccountable at times
Russell -head ducker
Scotland - out sider
Whitnal - constantly shirking the contest
Deluca - very soft accept the big oath smashes his own
Maclaren - timid
Prendagast- timid
Bannister -timid
Stevens - head ducker and shirker
Lappin - often shirks


Bentick has go as does Mcgrath ,Fev , T.Bird and Simpson even Eddie and Wiggens and you wouldn't shape up to Setanta or Bryan But there is a softness in the under belly of this side

We cant sit here and complain about guys not flying the flag and showing leadership for three years then come out and say we have a side that is hard at it

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Sydney I reckon you're wrong about most of those players, but Heath Scotland would be the 2nd most likely player to rush to a teammates aid in the team.

You may see him as an outsider, but he's not afraid to have a go. Went off with the blood rule early after tangling with Byron Pickett in Round 1.

Obviously its Pagan's fault the players are soft....right?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

If anything NO its not Pagans fault I think this is the most unlike Pagan team I have seen -they tend to fly the white flag to quickly for a Pagan side

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Your talking about Carlton players Sydney - hopefully the only fights in a bar involving football players would be with the flower from the Lexus Centre.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Anyone but Fraser Gehrig.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

It amazes me how players are labelled.

i agree blueworld. its always funny how ppl who have never played the game at the highest level are so willing to pass judgement on a player.

as my uncle (who did play at the highest level) said one day at the footy: "these guys who are so quick to jump on that guy have no idea what its like...they dont realise how quick it moves, how quick things happen, theyd be petrified to get within 30 meters of the ball"

so before u have a go at someone for shirking the issue ask urself what u would have done. of course ull say u wouldnt have....but the shoe would be on the other foot if u ever had to.

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Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

I can handle having a couple of so called 'softies' in the team.
It takes all kinds to get the blend right.
What I can't handle is when those guys are not protected by the so called 'harder' players in the team.
Carlton's had a fine history of looking after the little guy. Unfortunately, not so much lately.
Regards Pedro.

Would love to see you go up against anyone in that list SB ... very interested to see how you would fare tough guy away from behind your keyboard up there in sydney against Heath Scotland.

This current media obsession (and now fans have also picked it up) in picking out so-called soft players is an interesting trend. The game has become more outside, faster and less collision oriented because the media highlights every physical incident (see the many calls for Giansiracusa to be reported for bumping Kosi).

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I wouldn't want to go up against Scotland - the man has perfected E-Honda's 1000 Hand slap!