I agree Shakin and I'm usually on the side of the @#$%&! up (I do barrack for Carlton after all).

Kernahan spends 15 minutes every morning trying to decide which side of his toast to butter but I'm still bemused by Gleeson's switch.

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If they were commumists, they would probably give us the pick and force us to leave Gardiner alone.

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Were Judd, Pavlich, etc. in the 2002 draft?

Where did Effes say Goddard was a champion?

The number 1 pick isn't about getting a Judd, Riewoldt or Pavlich with that pick but the best player on offer in that year's draft. Goddard has more heart and ticker than Wells, is more versatile than Salopek and Brennan is a bit too much like Franklin for my liking.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=draft&spg=display&articleid=176962

That draft was pretty average with a lot of misses and I'd be rapt if we could pick a Goddard each year.

A Goddard would be handy but i'd say Wells will be a better player, just a little out of form... Over their careers Wells has shown more, albiet more infrequently!

Kade Simpson is right up there... Byron Schammer is a gun and the equal of a Goddard!... (Yes he is)

Steven Salopek is now a consistent ball-winner and not far behind.. Watson are Crowley are good players...

You do make a good point though... Wells is the only one i'd say who has more talent... followed by Schammer and Simpson!

Look at the numbers here... A very weak draft!

1 1 Brendan Goddard Gippsland U18 St. Kilda
1 2 Daniel Wells Peel Thunder Football Club Kangaroos
1 3 Jared Brennan Southern Districts Football Club Brisbane Lions
1 4 Tim Walsh Northern U18 Western Bulldogs
1 5 Jarrad McVeigh NSW-ACT U18 Sydney Swans
1 6 Steven Salopek Dandenong U18 Port Adelaide
1 7 Andrew Mackie Glenelg Football Club Geelong
1 8 Luke Brennan Northern Ballarat Football Club Hawthorn
1 9 Hamish McIntosh Murray U18 Kangaroos
1 10 Jason Laycock Tasmania U18 Essendon*
1 11 Jason Winderlich Gippsland U18 Essendon*
1 12 Jay Schulz Woodville-West Torrens Football Club Richmond
1 13 Byron Schammer West Adelaide Football Club Fremantle
1 14 Daniel Bell Glenelg Football Club Melbourne
1 15 Nicholas Smith Norwood Football Club Melbourne
1 16 Stephen Gilham Oakleigh U18 Port Adelaide
1 17 Cameron Faulkner Central Districts Football Club Western Bulldogs
1 18 Kris Shore Eastern U18 Kangaroos
1 19 Troy Selwood Bendigo U18 Brisbane Lions
1 20 Will Minson Norwood Football Club Western Bulldogs
1 21 Bo Nixon Calder Cannons Collingwood
2 22 Matthew Ferguson Gippsland U18 St. Kilda
2 23 Tom Lonergan Calder Cannons Geelong
2 24 Paul Johnson Dandenong U18 West Coast Eagles
2 25 Callum Urch Western U18 Kangaroos
2 26 Jared Rivers North Adelaide Football Club Melbourne
2 27 Darren Walsh Sandringham U18 Essendon*
2 28 Tristan Cartledge North Ballarat U18 Essendon*
2 29 Luke Shackleton Tasmania U18 Collingwood
2 30 Daniel Merrett Southport Football Club Brisbane Lions
2 31 Joel Perry Eastern U18 Kangaroos
2 32 Luke Jericho West Adelaide Football Club Adelaide Crows
2 33 Brad Murphy Clader Cannons Western Bulldogs
2 F/S 34 Sean Dempster Calder Cannons Port Adelaide
2 35 Scott Bassett Port Adelaide Magpies Western Bulldogs
2 F/S 36 Tim Callen Geelong U18 Geelong
2 37 Brent Staker NSW-ACT U18 West Coast Eagles
2 38 Blake Grima Eastern U18 Kangaroos
2 39 Gary Moorcroft Essendon* Melbourne
2 F/S 40 Jobe Watson Sndringham U18 Essendon*
2 41 Tim Fleming Carlton Richmond
2 F/S 42 Brett Ebert Port Adelaide Magpies Port Adelaide
2 43 Cameron Cloke Eastern U18 Collingwood
2 44 Anthony Corrie Nightcliff Football Club Brisbane Lion
3 45 Kade Simpson Eastern U18 Carlton
3 46 Leigh Fisher Sandringham U18 St. Kilda
3 47 Bill Nicholls Hawthorn Richmond
3 48 Greg Edgcumbe Eastern U18 Fremantle
3 49 Cameron Wight Calder Cannons Western Bulldogs
3 50 Josh Thewlis Bendigo Bombers Sydney Swans
3 51 Tim Boyle Geelong U18 Hawthorn
3 52 Pass Geelong
3 53 Adam Selwood Bendigo Bombers West Coast Eagles
3 54 Cameron Hunter Calder Cannons Melbourne
3 55 Ryan Crowley Calder Cannons Fremantle
3 56 Robert Shirley Adelaide Crows Adelaide Crows
3 57 Wade Champion West Adelaide Football Club Port Adelaide
3 58 David King Glenelg Football Club Collingwood
3 59 Pass Brisbane Lions
4 60 Cameron Croad Oakleigh U18 Carlton
4 61 Pass St. Kilda
4 62 Daniel Sipthorp Calder Cannons Richmond
4 63 Brett Doswell NSW-ACT U18 Fremantle
4 64 Nick Malceski Eastern U18 Sydney Swans
4 65 Lochlan Veale Geelong U18 Hawthorn
4 66 Ryan Ferguson Frankston Football Club Melbourne
4 67 Steven Alessio Essendon* Essendon*
4 68 James Begley St. Kilda Adelaide Crows
4 69 Pass Port Adelaide
4 70 Matthew Lokan Port Adelaide Magpies Collingwood
4 71 Pass Brisbane Lions
5 72 Brad Fisher Eastern U18 Carlton
5 73 Pass St. Kilda
5 74 Pass Richmond
5 75 Pass Fremantle
5 76 Pass Sydney Swans
5 77 Pass Adelaide Crows
5 78 Pass Brisbane Lions
6 79 Karl Norman Wangaratta Rovers Carlton
6 80 Pass St. Kilda
6 81 Pass Richmond
6 82 Pass Fremantle
6 83 Pass Sydney Swans
7 84 Mick Martyn Kangaroos Carlton

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In other news.. Melbourne has stepped up its Bid for Whitnall.. offering a 2nd round pick and it's promise to Whitnall to offer him a spot up forward with a Mega box of Krispy Kremes!

Mark Ebert down as a young star also!

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In other news.. Melbourne has stepped up its Bid for Whitnall.. offering a 2nd round pick and it's promise to Whitnall to offer him a spot up forward with a Mega box of Krispy Kremes!

We actually did really well in that draft....it's amazing (or was it luck?)

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I'd rather have Goddard if I was forced to choose and I would choose BG going ahead of Wells going into a final.

You can play him everywhere.

Wisbey was on the money with his comment that you'd have Goddard next to you in the trenches.

Wells would be the character Mel Gibson played in Gallipoli.

Schammer!

You're a Freo supporter right??? you'd have to be to believe that ... Schammer doesn't get the ball as often as Goddard and can't kick... the opposition love it when Schammer gets the ball as he turns it over...he makes our blokes look like superstars...

...he runs fast though ... hopeless and runs fast

Thanks Handbag! Obviously you were on another planet a couple of years ago when Schammer staked his claim as one of the future stars of the AFL!

Our boy, Marc Murphy shows just as much as Goddard and BG has been in the system for 4 years. And has only just come on so dont piss down my back and tell me its raining buddy!

I suppose Daniel Wells will never be any good either, because his form has been a little patchy of late also!

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In other news.. Melbourne has stepped up its Bid for Whitnall.. offering a 2nd round pick and it's promise to Whitnall to offer him a spot up forward with a Mega box of Krispy Kremes!

I thought we were talking about football but if you'd like to talk about movies, go ahead lol!

So Juzz, Are you a fan of Dirty Dancing???

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In other news.. Melbourne has stepped up its Bid for Whitnall.. offering a 2nd round pick and it's promise to Whitnall to offer him a spot up forward with a Mega box of Krispy Kremes!

What he said.

No need for name calling mate just because somebody may have your measure ... maybe Schammer did stake a claim to be a future star of the AFL a few years ago if you read The West Australian every week, but since then he hasn't kicked on ... and when he has he's butchered it out on the full
His disposal makes him a liability and if you compare Goddard's Friday night to Schammer's Saturday at AAMI, i think you'd see that only one of them could hold their head high when being questioned about their individual performance.

I never questioned the worth of Murphy over Goddard, nor mentioned Wells ... but i guess you were just trying to lose me in the schrapnel as you Schammer statement was so ludicrous.

Goddard is a good player and in a few years will be a gun...

He can kick on either foot and has sublime skills....

He doesn’t look good because Thomas keeps playing him as a "Mr Fix" it because he is so flexible.

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Hate to split hairs here, but wasn't Brock McLean drafted the same year as AW?

Cooney, Walker, Sylvia, Ray, McLean?...

Note that the Doggies and Demons are playing finals footy

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Um...er...guys! I think you are all getting lost here.

What is the point of all this bickering?

Arguing over who is or isn't worth pick 1, 2, or 5000 isn't going to get us a priority pick before the first round.

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Neither will bumping your post count.

How many finals has Hodge played in?

I honestly don't get it?

What is that some sort of internet-only myth madness?

I see you’re into the 6000 plus range, not every one of yours could possibly be in the "must read words of a philosophical genius" category.

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OK then!

Just keep questioning our recruiters Naomi!

Who the hell is Naomi?

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