You're right Speedy - my mistake.

Better vote him out then.

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The st Kilderrrrrr system is a crock. Possibly the most humiliating experience for ANY would-be senior coach.

Butterrs "I've got a good idea!! let's invite Melbourne's media here and have 6 coaches walk straight past them on the way in and out of the interview. This way we can see how they handle the media on the news that night We'll even give them the interview timetable "

What a dunce! He may have appointed 1 coach (who is less than convincing) but he's made sure the other 5 or so won't be back at Moorabbin in a hurry .

They have done nothing but @#$%&! up for the last 5 years(I mean 105 years), and spin it so the public think this is the modern way of doing AFL business.

Many people here are among the suckers to take it hook line and sinker .

No, let's stay away from the aints model.

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Ratts eases Brown frustration

Looks like Fraser is relatively happy with Ratts appointment and Crosisca - he may not be part of any challenge - there may be an alternative challenge or Brown has wiped his fingerprints of any prospective challenge!!!

Interesting times ahead - all will be revealed soon.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

What an master stroke to appoint Ratten- bring back a champ of the club & prevent a board challenge!!!

You got it.....appease Brown and make him go away by appointing his mate....who knows how far that deal has gone....even to the point of getting Pagans job if and when he sees out his contract or get the chop..
Smorgon, Sticks and co survive and everyone is happy...except Barry Mitchell.

I heard a bit of rumour that Richard Pratts son was approached to front a challenge to the board...anyone confirm or deny that rumor?

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politics politics politics.....

...can't wait for Maloufs book after he's eventually 'let go'

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There's so much I could say...

It was always going to be either ratts or sos join Denis..... the reason being that the senior players simply dont listen and can not take orders from Denis.

SOS and Ratts are well respected thats why Rattan was brought in and he will deal with the senior group of players.

Denis wanted SOS as it was made aware to him that some senior players had been in contact with him

SOS rejected 2 year full time offers by Sydney, Tigers and Geelong because he knew of the situation becoming

Did the rumor also include what his response was - I mean if they knew he was approached, surely they'd also know the answer?

You have been promising this for 6 months now, as have others.

There's been an "imminent board challenge in 2-3 weeks" every week since April now.

I just hope you're all right and it eventually comes. As someone said above, I hope it's not just "hot air".

I'm watching you Wangers

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They will know that they've been playing against the famous old dark blues

$12,000.00+ per week to a coach that a lot of the players dont listen to.
Thats handy.


What's Lappins view?





or Shannon Hurn?

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Gleeson pffft. What review did he conduct? This surbuban financial planner does not inspire and is not the answer. Vote him off - he was never voted on for a start

It's not that easy ! Anthony Pratt is the CEO of Pratt Industries (USA) and as such is based over there. Richard Pratt is Chairman of VISY and Anthony's kicking butt on the business field over there in the States - so I personally can't see him coming back. Harry Debney is CEO of VISY here in Australia and hasn't put a foot wrong so unlikely to move over for Anthony if he came home.

Approaching Anthony would have been done with Richards' blessing I'm sure. Dick's had prostate cancer and it would have been perfect 'ammo' for Carro to make a Bullshit story about the Blues approaching the son of their wealthiest member ($5.2billion) while he had cancer....so I read that as more a 'courtesy - we're just sounding you out if on the chance you'll bring the family back to Australia'.

I'm sure it'll happen one day - but between the Pratts', Smorgons', Grollos', Bruce Mathieson and the NAB - big business deals is what will determine who can, can't, will or won't join the board.

Wallace was spoken to at the time for sure. Not sure about Eade. I can't provide you with the exact interview process but do you really need a starting list of 100 to make the process credible. The failure of Brittain made the Board look to an established coach. Questioning Pagan's credentials back at that time is a bit rich. He took over a struggling team (which everyone conveniently forgets), with little money and turned them into the best team of the decade, winning 2 flags for the club - their first since the 70s.

If it's easy getting premierships out of immensely talented teams then surely Thomas would be a 3 time premiership coach - he isn't.

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I read somewhere, and i think it was a post on TC, that Anthony Pratt was coming back to Australia quite soon. It might be BS, but if you can be bothered searching for it you should be able to find the post.

No, but more than one would be handy.
Wallace wanted the job and was'nt even considered.
You're the one who said Pagan was "on a list of candidates".
One person doesnt make a list.



Questioning his credentials?
I'm questioning your recollection of the facts.
Yes Pagan was a premiership coach but so are many others through history. Allan Jeans has more premierships but I wouldnt want him coaching Carlton.
Being a premiership coach doesnt make them the right fit at every club at any time in their development.
We made a decision without going through the right processes first. Unfortunately its become our standard practice.

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Anthony Pratt is definetely coming back to Australia for two reasons. One is his fathers health and the second is to raise his young family in the greatest city in the world.

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Jim Wilson wrote an article that stated that Anthony was "poised" to come home - and although he comes back often throughout the year - I'm yet to see nor hear of any changes to Pratt Industries (USA)...so until I do - I'd take it that Jim was just adding a bit of spice to his 'fraser brown to challenge board' article of September 22.

Now look who is being a revisionist "struggling team" - Pagan took over 90% of the boys who he nurtured through the Under 19s at North Melbourne - and took over an acknowledged dud of a coach in Schimmelbusch - the reason Schimma got the sack is that he couldnt get at team with the likes of Carey and Longmire and a mid-field of Larkin, German, and others to click - the cattle was there.

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[quote]CARLTON agitator Fraser Brown last night hailed the appointment of club great Brett Ratten as an assistant coach and hinted it may bring an end to a board challenge.



Not at all... youll find there are huger players at play here.

and will it be bloodless??

Of course it will be bloodless.. .. when it happens the board will scatter in every direction..they dont have the stomach for a fight.. theyre weak.
they are being dictated to by the AFL.
The AFL chooses our coach.. whether we get a priority pick or not...
They are leading us with a stick as well as a carrot...

After all they are weak.. impotent.. and are unable to bring the club to an even keel.

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He wont do it he has been in the US for 20 years or something..Anthony..

But no worries..

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