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I've always been of the opinion that people like Wilson and Sheahan are of that malignant breed who feel it their duty to cut down tall poppies.

For whatever reason they weren't able to reach those heights themselves. So they latch onto the coat tails of others. Of course, they are then bundled into the world of football writers. Where the limited seriousness of the topic, plus the fundamental problems of journalism, finding and substantiating truth, becomes a contest to see who can bleed the most from any given or created controversy.

However, that leaves them in the spurious position of being as good as everyone elses shit.

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as we can all agree, this incident is now way past its used by. the footage we have all seen isnt in any way as bad as it was initially being made out to be, paul the barman has lost all credibility as he does more and more backflips as the days go by...journalists are always going to go for the biggest story, unfortuently for fev, in early novemeber, footy journos are scraping the bottom of the barrel. everyone knows fev is a top guy, i saw first hand one day when i was at princes park walking to the carlton shop, and he came up and was having a chat, he just lost his cool for moment and now is being made to pay by a couple of people who need to sensationalise to get paid, those people being caro, mike sheehan, neil mitchell etc, none of them were ever going to side with him because the easiest article for them to write was the one where all they had to do was list his prior indescretions and build a 'case' from there...its all a cop out, one that brendan just has to ignore.

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as we can all agree, this incident is now way past its used by. the footage we have all seen isnt in any way as bad as it was initially being made out to be, paul the barman has lost all credibility as he does more and more backflips as the days go by...journalists are always going to go for the biggest story, unfortuently for fev, in early novemeber, footy journos are scraping the bottom of the barrel. everyone knows fev is a top guy, i saw first hand one day when i was at princes park walking to the carlton shop, and he came up and was having a chat, he just lost his cool for moment and now is being made to pay by a couple of people who need to sensationalise to get paid, those people being caro, mike sheehan, neil mitchell etc, none of them were ever going to side with him because the easiest article for them to write was the one where all they had to do was list his prior indescretions and build a 'case' from there...its all a cop out, one that brendan just has to ignore.


If he does ignore this then he deserves all that comes his way.


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what i said was he had to ignore the shortsighted criticisms being levelled at him by people who are simply trying to sensationalise the incident, the criticisms by people like caro and neill mitchell who seem to have some sort of vendetta against him, they just couldnt wait for him to slip up again after he'd reformed himself. as many people have said before me its funny how an incident such as this is getting just as much press, possibly more, as well as more criticism than some more serious incidents involving afl footballers. it also pushed the werribee teens off the front page didnt it?

he has to ignore the words from some individuals in the media who behind closed doors probably agree its a load of crap, but when at the mic or keyboard must put up a different front to get people to listen to them or read them...the story would be a lot more boring from a public perspective if everyone in the media agreed it was a load of crap.

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kwtf_ wrote:
I've always been of the opinion that people like Wilson and Sheahan are of that malignant breed who feel it their duty to cut down tall poppies.


She makes Sheahan look good. Her bias against Carlton is reaching Patrick Smith levels but I guess most Richmond supporters who lived through the 70s hate Carlton. I wouldn't take much of what she writes to heart because the players don't.

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Can you just get over it.... ???? Laughing


Oh Synbad go suck a lemon! leave the guy alone!

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I just think the Journos are really missing football atm......

This happened around a week ago and they are still bagging him and writing peice's on him, like it is breaking news....

I guess not even the Journo's want to cover the joke of international rules!

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No sucking of lemons needed....while Fevolution is only sticking up for his favourite, Brendan needs to understand that he cannot behave like a guy on the WoopWoopEast footy trip and not expect there to be consequences.

And good on Caro for giving a kick to the AFL's handling skills. They should be scrutinised a lot more.


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you will never take the thug out of fev! who cares what he does off the field, as long as he keeps kicking goals and being an on-field leader at Carlton. It typical of the media to jump you for one mistake, in a year of great positives. carro - get f*cked.

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Whether we like it or not - this behaviour is part of football culture right through from the country thirds and obviously right up to the top. Fev is just a symptom and the latest example of what has been going on for years. No doubt alcohol is the catalyst. Behaviour patterns live this are covertly encouraged and tolerated until some one's nose is out of joint (no pun intended) or some one wants to make a quick buck. There is very much a double standard here. As mentioned in earlier threads there are plenty of examples, one in particular stands out - How can some one urinating on a woman in public be tolerated in a decent society? Why did that not get the full treatment from the media wolves?
While this situation is unsavoury for us Carlton fans it will blow over and will without doubt happen again in another club. It is sad the Brendan let himself and those who care about him down. He is obviously not the brightest card in the pack andl needs minders so in some respects the AFL did have a responsibilty to monitor the players' behaviour - especially when they had been drinking all afternoon.

Bring on the draft so we can get back to talking football again!


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Seems like there were some other guilty parties too, so it seems the spotlight should be shone on the AFL rather than just on Fevola...

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But it wont be . :twisted:

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You know what? I'm going to "Look on the Brightside".

Thanks to Fev's stuff-up, we have a hefty bonus coming our way...

How you ask?

Well... If we had the TAC or someone similar as a sponsor, this latest incident would have caused us even more grief... And cost us money!

Lucky for us our sponsor is Dan Murphy's! Surely the opposite occurs!

See, people! Fev's only trying to raise some much needed cash!

Hooray for Fev!


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The major reason why Fev has pulled his socks up is his wife and the responsibilities of having a family. If there are problems there (and it is a big IF) - which Caro is hinting - we might be in for problems.... Fev is not the type that can handle personal problems well.


Apparently his wife likes a drink...alot...and when she became pregnant, it was a matter of, well, if I can't drink for the next 9 months, neither will you.

Now that she is no longer pregnant, odds are she's drinking again, and may no longer be the positive influence over Fevola that we'd like her to be. Quite possibly the opposite.

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I heard the same thing (in regards of Alex making Fev stop drinking). Everyone noticed that Fev became a much better player when he stopped drinking (while the misses was 'up the duff' and therefore Alex getting the recognition for the change), however no one really publicly stated that they have been a couple for a few years with her having no real positive impact on his ability, despite Fev being a father figure for Mia.


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Surely there must be someone we have'nt blamed?
Mabo? Fevs hairdresser? the street sweeper?
I did'nt realise Fev was such an innocent victim.

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Blue Vain wrote:
Surely there must be someone we have'nt blamed?
Mabo? Fevs hairdresser? the street sweeper?
I did'nt realise Fev was such an innocent victim.


Jeff Kennett?

Paul Keating? After all, Howard and Costello seem to still blame him for the country's ills... :roll:

I think some of the comments about Mrs Fev are pretty low. Leave the family out of it.

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The reason the journos won't give it a rest is that the more the prod the beast the louder he roars. The beast being a combination of Fevola, Paul the Barman and the Chief flower of the AFL.

And the reason the Picket/Brogen etc incidents went away quicker was that none of them were overseas representing their national team at the time for a sport that is viewed in both contries with a mixture of amused cynicism and outright malice.

The other issue is that it is Fev. Fev courts attention - both positive and negative - and much like Tarrant did he lives and dies by the reputation he has created for himself. Contrast that with the relative lack of attention to Scotland slapping the girl in the face - and THAT went to court.

Fev has got the big contract, is the marketing face of the club, got the footy club gig etc etc - he is setting himself up as a tall poppy, and we all know what the national pastime is these days....


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Its a pretty low act to start trying to blame the fact that his wife enjoys a drink. (as do 80% plus of society.) She has as much on the line long term as he does, financially and emotionally plus there are young children involved. FFS it might just be a big wake up call.

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and i dont blame costello and Howard for societies ills. I blame Synbad. (well for my depression anyway) :lol: :lol: :lol:

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