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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:43 pm 
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and i dont blame costello and Howard for societies ills. I blame Synbad. (well for my depression anyway) :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ahhh, he'll soon fix that :wink:

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I reckon Caro is fairly well on the money with her articles, as usual.

Fev's credibility has taken a big self inflicted pounding. Less than a month after all the noise he was making about having turned the corner and put the bad behaviour behind him.

I heard the alarm bells ringing a few weeks ago when he was talking along the lines of going off the booze again after Christmas. It lead to the obvious question ... why go back on it at all, when he has been talking up how good his life had become due to his staying off it?

He made the choice to hit the booze again, when clearly he is a bad drunk, which he has effectively acknowledged, so the personal consequences are his.

Unfortunately his actions also affect many more people than just himself.

Caro is right, his credibility is back to where it was 12 months ago.


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Huh?

His credibility? What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

All this is irrelevant to Fev's credibility as a footballer.


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Huh?

His credibility? What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

All this is irrelevant to Fev's credibility as a footballer.


Like he gives a sh!t what a crap journalist from a newspaper nobody reads thinks about him. He's led the goalkicking at Carlton 4 years in a row now and has a Coleman medal. His credibility is fine from this Carlton fan's perspective.

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..seriously, the only person to blame is Fev, he should be back home right away copping it all on the chin.. ..it is the only responsible thing to do.. ..except, he is highly irresponsible.. ..he's 25, 7yrs an adult now and he really needs to behave like one.. ..we live in a society.. ..you can't lay your hands on another person in aggression..

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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..seriously, the only person to blame is Fev, he should be back home right away copping it all on the chin.. ..it is the only responsible thing to do.. ..except, he is highly irresponsible.. ..he's 25, 7yrs an adult now and he really needs to behave like one.. ..we live in a society.. ..you can't lay your hands on another person in aggression..


Aah, a voice of reason from the wilderness...

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This is all getting a bit tedious. Yes, Fev is still in the news. He stuffed up big time. Caro rightly points out that the AFL are partly to blame.

So why is this still in the news? In part, it is because Fev is a good target. He answers back. In part also, though, it is because there is no other footy news to report. And while the Aussies are still in India talk of the Ashes hasn't really started yet.

The end... I am really getting sick of this. Fev didn't have to do it.


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A balanced view would of course be one that was firm on the fact that what Brendan did was wrong, but one that would also take into account other things such as personal issues that he might be having.

It actually would not take very much effort at all for these very well connected journalists to get this side of the story early on and incorporate it into their media pieces.

The fact that they have chosen not to do this is very telling.

The temptation for these people to act like media sharks to gorge themselves in a feeding frenzy fuelled by a general hatred of Carlton is a very strong one for journalists like Caroline Wilson, Neil Mitchell..

So easy to anticipate the public mood, act like a lynch mob and trade on your authority by doing a lazy journalistic job in going for the jugular like they have done.

Easy ratings and newspaper sales.

As for other people like Jeff Kennett. He is a man who has moderated a lot and done some good work over the vears and for this he gets a great deal of credit. After all, he had a very big bad Karma to start to try and balance out.

However, underneath, he is still quite a vindictive and nasty person.

Speaking of vindictive and nasty people, I am just waiting for the next instalment of Patrick Smith's Carlton Hater bile with a slant on Fevola to be published.

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What else is she supposed to write about? The International Rules stuff is a shambles, there's no big names in the preseason draft and theres no late night or drug issues for social commentators of her ilk to blab about.

What we need is pressure on an opposing Coach like Laidley to divert attention.

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What we need is pressure on an opposing Coach like Laidley to divert attention.


Great idea. But the coach with the most pressure is Pagan, so looks like the spotlight's back on us...

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i think Bomber Thompson must be looking over his shoulder at the moment.

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But of course she could write about the hypocrisy of a sporting body that hangs one of its own out to dry over a headlock, yet seems to condone same players running around a field smacking people.

Well done Jabba and crew.

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The first thing my wife and I said to each other when the Fevola news broke was......where were the myriad of officials who were over there?

Fev was stupid ...sure, but....SOMEONE should have been chaperoning or at least keeping an eye on these young guys.....and why did they get a free day on the grog in the middle of the Series, instead of at the end?

I think Caro's article is pretty spot on....as usual.


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and were was the player backup Warby when the wah up was done. Off you go Brendan bye bye.

Go on you Fev for going back for the caution and also to Malouf for going to accompany you home.

The damage from the last "test" shows Dimwitspews got egg on his face.

PLus I hate to admit it but Sheedy did stick up for his team and should be congratulated. (that made me feel sick typing that)

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'Fragile' Fevola back in Ireland to face his demons

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The Age has learned that the Blues had warned the AFL of a number of personal issues weighing upon Fevola's mind before the international rules team left for its Irish tour and remain perplexed at the lack of support offered Fevola both during the tour and after his violent transgression in a Galway hotel.



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Malouf and Connors plan to join Fevola on the final leg of his flight home.



Without condoning Fev's conduct - more evidence of an AFL stuff up!

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the plan last night was for him to make public his arrival time into Melbourne and hold a press conference upon his return

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The article about Fevola in The Age today confirms my thoughts on this matter.

The fact that Carlton warned the afl of Fevolas apparently quite serious emotional issues in relation to him going to Ireland but were perplexed when no support was provided is telling.

This would have either been known about or else easily able to be found out by the journalists that decided to pillory Brandan in the media.

Not once did these people suggest that Fevs apparently quite serious personal issues would be in any way a mitigating circumstance for his actions.

All this information is coming out now - when of course the newspapers have all been sold and the talkback shows have been listened to.

This is a widely used media tactic where the information that might get in the way of or diminish a big story is told, but quite deliberately, this occurs much later on....

This shows the cheap media game that these people like Caroline Wilson and Neil Mitchell are playing for what it actually is.

With a person in Fevs' situation, further trauma over this issue from the media or anyone else would most probably be very counter productive as far as Fevolas emotional state is concerned.

What Fevola did was wrong, but the failure of others to take his emotional condition into account in their judgement of him, especially from the media, smacks of cheap and lazy reporting designed to maximise ratings or paper sales at his expense.

What Brendan really needs is help, support and a way forward and not being subjected to further blame and censure over this.

It might give media people and others some twisted sense of righeousness for this to continue, but it would not do anything at all to help get Brendan onto a positive pathway where this unfortunate incident is put behind him.

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