Well Synners I started out thinking something like this:



But in the end decided it may be a lot more like this:



So we should just walk in after 6 and grab it.

Nobody wants a real shitfight except those clingging to power.

Unless we stir the hornets nest we will get status quo...

Alot of the people that would run against smorgon are businesspeople that wouldnt want to be involved in a public stoush against one of the ten most richest families in this country.

Tuesday was a last stand.

The money was promised...
A president was in the waiting....
A CEO was ready to jump on board...
A plan was put forward...
The board did not have unity in believing smorgon was the right man.
The AFL doesnt believe he or the CEO can lead us out of this...

And still he could have used his vote as the casting vote to save his arse...

Mathieson couldnt be bothered attending and it was doomed.

The guy is selfish!!.. he doesnt have the answers...but he is still happy and prepared to stay on and just continue to have us sucking money from the AFL as we compromise ourselves further .

thats where were at...!!

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Thats a pretty poor last stand though isnt it Synbad? Where was the pressure point for him to walk away - just a promise that 'things will be better under the new grouping'?

Its clear that Smorgon wont walk, he needs to be pushed. Unless we get more of the Status Quo group to side with the Hopeful 5 I can't see that happening. What drives Gleeson?

Synbad,

Your sentiments are terrific. However, it was an AFL commissioned report about the functioning of the CFC. The AFL would have the full report, the club may not.

As a member I would love to see the report in full – I doubt that this would ever happen.

FOI laws do not apply – only apply to government & government departments.

There is no realistic legal avenue which could be taken to obtain the report.

As members we elect the board to perform in the best interests of the club (& by default in our best interests). Raising concerns as to the Board’s performance occurs at the AGM or if sufficiently big issue at an EGM. The Board is not obligated to deal with requests, concerns etc on an adhoc basis from disgruntled members.

I think that the only way to get a full copy is via a sneaky leaker or perhaps approach Ben Buckley - he may wish to destablise the Spew now that he has moved on

Regards
Ockham

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Synbad wrote

If Tuesday night is what we have all been waiting for then God help the club.

What an absolute fizzer!

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Yes it was disappointing and the other 4 were filthy...

But Bruce knowing they would go down didnt want it to look any worse than what it already looked for the club.

Its clear Smorgon wont stand down.. and he will be fifficult to dislodge.

there is a huge chance BM will now just walk away... having had a gut full and take what he was going to pledge to the club with him.
He has no confidence in GS at things stand...

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By the tone of Synbads post it seems that it was!!
Our club is in serious trouble with Malouf and Smorgon in charge.
Very sad for the Carlton Footy club that change didn't occur on the tuesday. Expect more of the same crap for the next few years

The problem with everything is for as long as Gleeson Kernahan Rose and Wilson stand by Smorgon... you cant kick him out... Smorgon will always exercise his own vote to equalise but have the casting vote.
He will stoop to using his own vote to keep himself in power.

Just as he has stooped in begging on the Tasmanian Miners Disater Benefit show for money ...

He has no shame.. and a man with no shame can be hard to dislodge..

But come election time...
Wilson
Rose
and Gleeson are up.

So id like to think we can stick the boots in ....

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Well to get to the election time you need 100 signatures of members.

The members will only sign up if we know there's a cohesive new grouping to support.

Chicken and egg.

Where's the chook?

ps Australian o/37 after 6 overs

There are elction at the AGM.. people will put their hand up.. probably as individuals or small tickets...

Wont be a spill .. theyre all scared off one..

We have to pick them off one by one...

Lee was the man earmarked as president if we can get the numbers to tilt away from Smorgon and he has the blessing of alot of money people...

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Isn't Smorgon up as well?

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Let me get this straight:

Plan A
Come up with $ and people to form a new mega ticket
Ask Graham to resign
Try to force a new CEO
If that fails, go to Plan B

Plan B
Duck your heads
Wait until March 2007, ceding 4 months of time for the incumbent to use Club resources to push his election case
Break up into small groups and maybe nominate yourself
Then ask the $ from Plan A but perhaps acknowledge that you've lost Mathieson's purported contribution

So he is....

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This whole thing smells and is very depressing

GS was never going to stand down and any rival faction should have been prepared for it - I would have thought

If money men are refusing to pledge monies whilst GS is at the helm this indicates what they think of him - the message has been sent already!!!

If the board was spilt would the rival factions come forward or is that still not enough ????????????

Molsey,

Based on what Synbad is saying then that is the only conclusion which can be reached.

If that is the best plan that the challengers have then maybe the grass isn't greener over the other side.

Or perhaps the entire "other side" hasn't revealed itself as yet

regards
Ockham

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Molesy.. if you look around... maybe not around the hard core more Carlton educated people... the average Joe doesnt want the club in turmoil.. theyre sick of it.
smorgon knows this and thats why he has the feel good stories being churned out by the spin doctors...

Most people around the club understand a REAL SHITFIGHT is in noones interest...

All Smorgon has to do is cling on and hes safe...because noone is going to open the gates of hell... theyre either not inclined to be that kind of people.. or they dont think its in the clubs interests.. or are willing to allow the whole thing to come to a head organically.

Were just going to have to pick them off one by one...Unless someone decides to get adventurous...

You can tell people arent happy.. you hear it.. you feel it.. but its not easy to have a revolution..
Reputations are on the line... etc

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If the four who are up for re-election in March are Smorgon and three of those supporting him then they're the walking dead.

There's absolutely no way all four will be re-elected.

The key will be to find a minimum of two new quality board members who'll side with Lee, Newton & co.

Once they're in then even if Smorgon's one of those re-elected he can be tipped out as President.

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Gleeson gave the impression that he would abstain..

Gleeson and Sticks are preparing their own little power base..

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Lets start campaigning against those that didn't want change for the good.

Start by getting the other Carlton forums on board with the plan to oust those on the board that were against change, ie GS, SK, AG, SW, etc

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

I can't believe that after all the planning, all the plotting that's what it came down to.

For months they've been moving in the background, sourcing money, support. These are supposedly influential and successful business people and this is what they come up with? Asking Smorgan nicely to move on? A vote where they don't have the numbers?

This just doens't make sense to me. I can't believe that was their big shot. Barely a wimper. A pea shooter when I was expecting a bloody nuke.