Denis is trying to win a Premiership, not just a meaningless H&A game

Did you know if we dont win enough meaningless H&A games we will a premiership inside 5 years???(or at least have an opportunity to?

Its a balance ...

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I can't tell if you know I'm making the same point as you or not

You go first and ill tell you.....

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I feel that the Collo/DP combo is looking for success in the longer term view.

Personally I don't have a problem with that but...

Why does Dennis continually say that "any team can beat any other team on their day"?

Does he really believe this?

If he does, then surely he MUST be held responsible for the inability of our team to be competitive, let alone win!

One can only assume that the other outcome, most likely IMHO, is that we are deliberately playing in such a way as to ensure a lack of success in the current season.

On their day they can .... but that might also mean if you played them 20 times yu got belted 19 times...

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Sorry mate. The above comment shows you've got little idea what you're on about.

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Well Denis allowed them to work the ball around last night.

Still got hammered.!!!

At the end oif the day youre only as good as the talent you have out on the field and their willingness to work hard.

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OUTCOACHED...With the TALENT at our CLUB Jesus Christ wouldn't be able to coach us into the finals.
Some of your crowd coaches have no idea. If it was only as easy as you guys think!!

Quit!

No just jokes. Look, i'm not a coach and i don not prentend to be. All i'm saying is that while Carltons list is poor, it's not as shit as the club makes it out to be!

Dennis has not once, NOT ONCE, taken any responsibility for the way we are playing! Never. All he does is blame it on the players, calling them 'Z' grade footballers and then says dumb shit like 'We're down on confidence at the moment!'

Does anybody else think that the teams he has picked this year have been confusing? I remember saying after the Crows match that if we had taken Bryan over instead of Prendagast we would have won AND i copped a bit of crap from it! The very next week he earns himself 18 Hitouts and 20 possesions in his first game for the Blues.....................Something Prenda NOR DeLuca has done in their career's EVER!

He brings Davies back in after good form in the VFL (very impressed with his midfield role for the Bullants this year by the way!), brings him on the field for all of 20mins a game and then drops him because he get's less than 10 possesions.

Look, i could go on but i wont. We're just going to have to aggree to dissagree! BUT, i will say this, while i'm not asking Dennis to accept 100% on the blame, even he should realise that he has been outcoached on many occasions this year and that perhaps some of his tatics need to be reviewed!

Synbad a question about last night though. Why when Bradshaw was moved on to Lance wasn't Lance moved into the square Pagan Paddock Style and hence making Bradshaw more accountable ? By keeping Lance up the ground Bradshaw was able to run off him and Lance was found wanting.

This was my only critism of Pagan last night, Seems simple but to me at the time seemed logical.

Oh well

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unless of course the club is thimking the same as Synbad

this is the worrt

are we trying to win? seriously trying.

or is Denis trying to sift again, who'll stay, who'll go.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

why don't people start "LETS TRY AND BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT OUR CRITICISMS TOWARD PLAYERS, COACHES AND OFFICIALS" threads.

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I don't get what your trying to say.....................so i'll elaborate on my first post!

So many people, including some on this site, have said that your only as good as the list you've got to work with. If that be the case, then Grant Thomas (who has the best list in the league) should have won at least two GF by now! But he hasn't..........WHY.........beacuse he is crap!

It's funny how people say 'Oh, but Dennis coached the roo's too two premierships' but when his team isn't doing to well it's 'Oh, but look at the list he's got to work with!.

The players have been taking enough crap comments and responsibility.....~! But at the same time, they have at least accepted some of the blame!

at what point in time has he evr said "its not my fault"...??? you are being overly critical considering if you had of coached us in the last 3 years we would have been bottom and on no wins....

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At what point has he ever taken a smidgen of the blame.

wven in last nights press confrence, all he did was say how good the lions are and how crap we are. What is that going to achieve?

Look. I'm just gonna stop talking about Pagan full-stop! I've held of for two years now so i think it's best not to start a shit fight and keep my opinions to myself.

but i will say this..........................our game plan needs to be reviewed!

Oh, and 'Shag'!!!!!! dude, i like you and all but why say something stupid like 'Oh, but if you were coaching us we'd be 0 wins after 3 years!!!'.
That's dropping yourself to a level of an 8 year old!

yeah, fair enough.....but in what part of the contract does it say he has to take the blame cause no-one else is?? his game plan might need renuewing...thats the only thing i think he can be blamed for....but when it works...it really works...!!! i.e the Wizzer

yes...it was a cheap pathetic comment...but the moral of it is that no other coach could have done anything worth it in the last 3 years...
on the other hand that might of been what we needed i.e dropping out and getting delidio last year...

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If youve got a critissm, but have an alternative move or suggesting that would be better, then thats fine, but what annoys me is that people slag off on Denis coaching style, his moves during the game etc saying how bad they are but dont offer an alternative on what they would do.

If you critisize, them I think is important to be accountable in that critisism.

Im not sure at all who would be able to get a better result with our list right now, irrespective of how good a coach they were.

I recall Ron Barassi's coaching term at the swans - when he went there at a time when the swans were on the bottom - he didnt actually do a lot in terms of wins, but he did put in place building blocks that made the swans a better team than they were at the time.

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exactly what i meant when i started this thread

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