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If Fev went to a top 4 side, would he be a 80+ goals per year forward and/or Coleman medalist?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:29 am 
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I watched the fifth quarter after the match tonight and I felt like putting my foot through the televsion when they crossed to Tim Lane after the match at the Telstra Dome.

His constant attack on Fevola was really shitting me and quite frankly im fed up with all this negativity towards Brendan, I really feel sorry for the guy.

He mentioned Fevola as "not even a 2.5 goal per game key forward" and also said he was at "the crossroads". Dead set, what an absolute wanker. There was all this talk a fortnight ago about Whitnall being at the crossroads, and my my how the tables have turned, hes had 2 good games in a row, suddenly its Fevola at the crossroads. Some of the things he mentioned include:

"Fevola not even a 2.5 goals per game key forward"

- First of all, many supporters, including myself, thought of Fev as a dud in his first few seasons. Of course, this was thought of by the coaching panel also at the time, with the well publicised story of Fev having his ass saved by Denis.

- In that regard, you should really look at Fevola's performances from 2003 onwards, as that is what his current projected market value is based upon. In both seasons hes kicked more than 60 goals in a crap side(We over achieved last year).

- Also, watching Fev on many occassions, he is a smart player and often his efforts on the ground and his one percenters produce good results

Also mentioned that Fevola was at the crossroads and his efforts tonight were below par.

- You are commentating at the game, you must be watching it and paying attention closer to it than any other supporter.

- Fevola looked ready to go on a rampage in the 1st quarter with teo goals and fantastic pressure applied to the Brisbane defence. He chased his ass off, producing a brilliant tackle which earnt him a free kick.

- He went for a soccer off the ground and that was it, he aggrevated his groin injury, it was evident I knew right away he was [REDACTED].

- He was half fit and still played on, still made a contest, and still chased.

- He appeared to be in tears on numerous occassions, showing us that he has the heart to play.

I cannot understand why sooooooooo many people headhunt Fev, he has talent, we have seen that on numerous occassions. Calls to trade him, hes crap blah blah blah. Even when he plays "crap", he still manages 2-3 goals a game playing for the worst side in the league. When the side plays half decent, usually hell kick 4 or 5, and when the team fires, he can kick upto 8 in a game.

Ask yourselves, if we were as good as West Coast, and had a midfield of Judd, Cousins, Fletcher, Kerr and the like, a midfield who could hit targets, would Fev be pushing for 80 goals + a season, possibly 90 or even 100 on his way to a Coleman medal.

It is not his fault when you have players that lack peripheral vision, players who kick to Fev and Whtinall when they are outnumbered 3 to 1, players who couldnt hit the side of a barn, players who deliver to the shins of a leading Fev and not his chest.

My point being, people like Tim Lane and others who jump on the Fev bandwagon when he kicks a bag fail to realise that his full abilities will not be seen on a consistent basis in a team like the current playing list of the Blues.

The equations are simple:

- A top 4 Carlton side = Fevola a superstar
- A dud side like we are now = Fevola restricted, however averages 3 goals a match still, 60 in a season

So Tim Lame(not a typo), you are a prick for headhunting Fev and labelling him at the crossroads


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:44 am 
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I feel sorry for fev with the service he gets from our side of footballers that cannot kick the ball.

There is no doubt that if he played in a team with good service (West Coast) he'd kick 100 at least once, I reckon he'd be remembered as better than Diver Lloyd too.

But I have grave fears that because he plays in a shit team that can't kick (really really cannot K.I.C.K) poor fev will be remembered as a Matthew Richardson type player. That is, hugely talented, mentally unstable, and capable of producing freakish performances but all too inconsistently.

I feel sorry for him. In a good team he could be so much more.



Did I mention that (bar a few players) no Carlton players can KICK. It's football for christ's sake and they can't kick.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:50 am 
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Tim Lane is an unashamed Lance Whitnal fan .. loves Lance... loves Optus...
Hates Fev....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:01 am 
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so tim finds it difficult to like 2 carlton forwards at once?

or is he upset that his favourite coach of all time, brittain, never got the chance to sack fev?

funny how tim never comments on how the great brittain (unintended pun btw) traded away picks in the greatest draft ever to bring that chook mckernan to carlton!!

funny how tim never suggests to parkin he was responsible for carlton's list black hole in the 24-28 yo category.

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i think you love fevola too much


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:34 am 
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Blueboy Dan Could not agree more, Tims go at Fev last night was poor form from a man who states he is a Blues supporter

The stronger we get the better Fev will get, sorry Mr Walls have to disagree with you about trading him as I believe he is a must keep player.

He will kick the ton for us one year dont worry about that

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Didn't see the 5th qtr, so I'm at a disadvantage, but here's a few thoughts I've had after reading your comments and the replies.

Maybe Tim needs to pump the interest angle for TV. There's not much interest in the headline "Fevola aggravates groin, plays hurt but still tries".

Would Fev be a 80+ FF at another team? Possibly, but that would also be dependent on the mentoring he receives from the coaching staff, which he is getting in good quantity with the Blues, but may not anywhere else. Fev is mercurial, to use the old cliche, and quite flighty, and if he gos somewhere else, may never reach the levels he reached even with us, which as we all know, is only the start of what he should be able to get to.

I don't quite understand why Fev remained on the field up against Mal Michael if he was injured. Time and time again in the 3rd, the radio commentators kept saying that Fev wasn't even able to chase after presenting at half-pace, and so the ball was constantly cleared away, and that's what killed us in the 3rd. With Fev off the ground Bryan could have been shifted to CHF with Lance at FF. At least that way, players wouldn't keep trying to kick to a player who was obviously hurt and unable to provide leads and goalscoring opportunities.

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Its all part of the 'Grand Plan'....... :wink:

Look Denis wants his players mentally tougher...

Fev wont play next week by the looks of things.
Lance will have to kick 10 for us to win....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:30 am 
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Synbad, Fev won't be alone. No one is playing next week.


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Tim Lane should leave the bagging to Robert Walls, who clearly has a better record at getting the best out of players, and teams, with his negative comments. :lol:

When you sit back and look at Fevs goal to game ratio, and then consider he is touted as one of the leagues best forwards, then yeah, his figures aren't all that special. However, Fev at full flight is the type of player that brings and extra 10,000 through the gate. He's exciting to watch, he's powerful, he's quick and he's "special".

Fev may be struggling, but it's not like he's struggling in a team with 21 stars around him and he's the only low light. Furthermore, Fev was clearly struggling for three quarters last night and was at least trying to take Mal Michael out of the game.

I don't think Fev is immune to criticism, but I do think there needs to be some context put into his current form. That said, Robert Walls stated last night during the game that he thinks another team would be prepared to lure Brendan with a $500K pay cheque ... is he playing like a half a million dollar player?

He can do.

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camelboy wrote:
Tim Lane should leave the bagging to Robert Walls, who clearly has a better record at getting the best out of players, and teams, with his negative comments. :lol:

When you sit back and look at Fevs goal to game ratio, and then consider he is touted as one of the leagues best forwards, then yeah, his figures aren't all that special. However, Fev at full flight is the type of player that brings and extra 10,000 through the gate. He's exciting to watch, he's powerful, he's quick and he's "special".

Fev may be struggling, but it's not like he's struggling in a team with 21 stars around him and he's the only low light. Furthermore, Fev was clearly struggling for three quarters last night and was at least trying to take Mal Michael out of the game.

I don't think Fev is immune to criticism, but I do think there needs to be some context put into his current form. That said, Robert Walls stated last night during the game that he thinks another team would be prepared to lure Brendan with a $500K pay cheque ... is he playing like a half a million dollar player?

He can do.


Well the market dictates what someone is worth .
Clubs have offered him more than 500k.
Walls reckons he would be offered more.
So Fev is worth 500k.... (on that logic)

Tim Lane would rather Carlton keep Lance...
I can just see all the little kids wearing number 8 on their backs and little red wigs and freckles... not that thetre is anything wrong with that.(Mums tell their sad red headed freckled kids all over the world... " Your face is a canvas and your freckles are the stars in the night sky" to make them feel better....
Howerer Fev is the face of Carlton !!!

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No doubt he would be probably leading the goalkicking if he he played for a team like Melbourne or Geelong. In fact if he was in one of them teams you could hand them the flag.
Has proven if the ball is put to his advantage he'll swallow it up and most likely bag the goal from any angle inside 60m.
Look how good Mathew Lloyd was a couple of years ago when the scum was flying and look at him now when his team is up the sh!t.


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simonverbeek wrote:

Did I mention that (bar a few players) no Carlton players can KICK. It's football for christ's sake and they can't kick.


Yep, even Stevens who always managed to find a target when at Port (well when he played against us anyway :evil: ) has been dragged down to our woeful kicking standard. Fevola has kicked 60+ goals in a shit side in the last 2 seasons. Could still top 50-60 this season again despite his injury problems. Look how poorly umpires girlfriend Lloyd is going this year in a shit side !!!!

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lane is a @#$%&! idiot. Excuse the language.


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Was on Footy Show this am. Said couldn't train properly all week, didn't have great preparation. Aggravated injury in 1st Q. Said was checking scoreboard during 3/4 time address. Said Wallsy is always negative and critical.


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Lane is out of touch, and so is Walls AND tony shaw. I can't believe what they just said! :shock:

Do they not understand that Fev is reliant on delivery inside 50? Did they not see the chasing he has been doing the past few weeks?

Walls said you can build a team around Waite and Lance. Waite is still a flanker! And Lance needs to be reminded to keep himself in shape!

Walls and Lance :roll:


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