Bluehammer, we agree on one point. Yes, I'm impatient. As for what Denis thinks then I think you have as much idea as I have about what going around in his head.

Is it time to move Carrots into the middle? Besides Kouta, we have no one who can win the ball as much as Carrazzo can. Our aim in 2-3 years time should be to have Stevens playing on the wing. Sadly our lack of midfielders means he has to play in the guts

I disagree. I think the way Denis coaches, his principles, his gameplan and methods are well known.

Denis built the strong North Melbourne sides of the 90s on 2 things: Wayne Carey and accountability.

I don't think that it's really drawing a long bow to suggest that Denis's primary objective with his young players is to instill an accountable work ethic.

So it's not mind reading, just a fair assumption based on past history.

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Blueshammer,

You're kidding, to suggest you think like Pagan is absurd in the least. Only Pagan knows what's in his head.

Very good call.
Unfortunately no one has stepped up to do his role down back.
Scotland was trialled there but failed.
Its time to throw someone in the deep end and give Carrazzo a decent run in the middle.
I'd bring Russell in and try him on the small forward. He handled Neon Leon quite well in the VFL.
We need to mix it up a bit.

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You must have skimmed over the above, phoenix...

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Voss, Buckley or Hird didn't need to tag great players to learn from them. I can understand using him as a run with player if his talent was limited but he is supposed to be a future superstar.

I remember seeing Hird get belted six ways from Sunday by one G. Ablett sr... only the exceptional don't do their apprenticeship....

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Hahahaha you're funny.

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Ratten and Akermanis did though and they turned out alright.

Bluehammer, great counter arguement.

Deano, No I didn't miss the point, he just contradicted himself in the same post

Hammer,
We concur 100%.
Tagging the elite is a magnificent apprenticeship for Walker.
He has the motor, the ball handling skills and the speed to be an all-conquering midfielder. His foot skills need more polish, but the pieces are falling into place for a future superstar.
He's now also learning a few tricks of the trade from the stars, learning when to attack, when to defend, learning that great players take risks, back their judgement.
He was also drafted as a very offensive footballer, and learning a more disciplined, defensive style can only improve him.
He will be fine.
I also agree with the Carazzo call.
Was regarded as one of the most damaging, high possession midfielders as a junior, however sucked defensively.
He has served a good apprenticeship and has grown as a footballer with a defensive role/focus.
He is comfortable in traffic, as he has proven on occasions, particularly on Saturday, so a run from time to time in the guts can't hurt.
He is capable, he is ready.
We keep saying our midfield is very poor relative to other teams, but I don't think we are rotating enough players through there. Let's develop the 8-10 man midfield that some other teams are going with.

Pheonix, BH is right. Pagans methodology is very basic and easy to understand. If you can't see it, well....

As for roatating our midfield. With who? we have only 2 in and unders - Kouta and Johnston, the rest are recievers, you can rotate them, but you still need to get the ball out to them.

We have no midfield.

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We do have a midfield... we have Campo!!!!

look.. Walker is no Voss....!!!!!!

Walker is probably closer to McLeod than Voss.
McLeod is an attacking midfielder but he has always had an accountable midfield around him...

............we have Campo....vice captain... 650k plus... gun footballer...selfless... all inspiring...defensive demon,...

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The natives were getting restless about Campo on "Sports Today" on 3AW as well - quite a few talkback callers (Carlton Supporters) were giving him a spray and Dr. Turf and Gerard Healy were sticking up for him.

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Gerard Healy would say anything to keep us down at the bottom forever.. he hates us!!!....

I also think alot of people read TC...

Seriously Campo is a disgrace...!!!

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That was AW's best game since his debut... playing as a tagger actually allowed him to get more involved in the game... and he said he was totally buggered afterwards, even his toes were tired! (last time I heard him say that was after his debut game)... great move Denis... maybe if Campo was given a similar role when he was younger, things may have been different...

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I treated your argument with the respect it deserved. I've given you plenty of valid reasons for why I believe Pagan is playing AW the way he is based upon Pagan's coaching history.

Nowhere have I claimed that I "think like Pagan" as you said. If you're going to disagree with me at least read my posts. I'm happy for you to point out where I contradicted myself, because you haven't as yet.

Also happy for you to provide me reasons as to why you disagree, but other than "throw him in there and let him loose" you haven't done so.

I said you were funny because after your previous post I couldn't believe you were possibly serious. But anyway...

Can we at least agree that we reckon Walker's going to be a great player sooner rather than later? I think we do. Happy to leave it at that.

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Andrew Walker : 13 kicks : 3 handballs : 3 marks : 3 tackles : 1 goal
Jason Akermanis: 11 kicks : 7 handballs : 3 marks : 5 tackles : 1 goal

A pretty respectable job by young Walker. Sure Aker outpointed him on a few stats, but Aker's influence on the game was nowhere near his best. Meanwhile young Walker still managed a relatively healthy 16 possies, only 4 more players did better for Carlton on the weekend.

I can see plenty of benefits in playing Walker on McLeod/Akermanis types. I'm sure we all agree we want Walker to be a gun midfielder for us. But to expect him to be starring in the midfield at his age is unrealistic IMO. He needs more experience, more mates with talent and a bigger body. Most of these things some with experience and maturity. He'll get there, he's shown plenty of indications to suggest that bit is beyond doubt.

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