old55 wrote:
I am first to admit that I am on the outside of the outside here. And I do respect George's opinion.
But what evidence is there of this player contempt? And this "sanctioned tanking"?
From my perspective, you are simply shit. And the main reason you are shit is because Elliot/Parkin/O'Sullivan right royally F@%&#! your list in the late 90s. Recovery has been compounded by the cruel draft penalties. But the real problem is that you have no decent Carlton-grown 23-28 yolds at all.
Kouta, Lance and Campo have never been bang-crash leaders, it is ridiculous to expect them to change their style this late. The problem here also is sheeted home to the late 90s when a new generation of leaders was not sought. It's not the current leardership groups fault, they were never equipped for the job in the first place. I agree this means you should get rid of them if you can.
Pagan is a good coach who only has a plan A and that plan relies on exactly the type of players you do not have -- Carey, Stevens, Archer, King. Again a legacy of your previous incompetent regime.
Look I understand it is hard for Carlton supporters to understand this and simpler to look for a conspiracy theory. But you are paying for past sins and Occam's razor says you are SHIT!
It's going to be a long hard road back, taken one painful season at a time. I do agree generally with Synbad's view.
As a Melbourne supporter of a certain age I find a certain sense of deja vu when I see the "it can't be happening here -- we are Carlton!" attitude. You bet your bottom dollar it is!
agree with most of what you say....except the last bit...it wont take all that long....because we have Dennis and you dont
bu then again...carlton fans...lets hope it doesnt take us 45 years to rebuild like our friend from demonland here ay??
