You don't think Stevens is a chance, CM?

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Thornton should be Captain in my opinion,stuff people saying he gets upset on the field,to me he has passion,you don't want some wimp Captain slapping someone bottom constantly stuffing up and not manning up,you want someone directing the other players and listening.

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OK, Grigg and Jamieson can escape this with the fact that they are young and impressionable, But Whitnall and Scotland just dont have that excuse.

This might have escaped the attention of some people, but Carlton is actually steadily building a bank of 30 and under draft picks, which is the main factor that separated bottom placed Carlton from West Coast a couple of years back.

Starting with Walker in 2004, we would actually have a reasonable number of young players with a lot of potential now.

So, yes, Whitnall and Scotland would probably start as required players in 2007, but would they finish the season this way given the crop of young talent that we are steadily accumulating.

So being busted after a night on the piss in the main St of Ballarat at 5am and getting into an argument - 2 weeks before pre season - is potentially a very costly and dumb move to make.

Whitnall has a wife and kids - so why isnt he home with them, tucking his children into be after reading them a story - like Kouta would be?

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Wasnt Thornton the player who wanted to leave Carlton and only stayed because he couldnt get to Hawthorn...

He needs to gain back the respect he lost in 2007.. He must be committed to the Blues and believe in the Carltons future first...

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Are there any 24 hour McDonalds in Ballarat??

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No but I believe South Melbourne Market Dim Sims are widely available.

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Weird isnt it???

sounds like theres more to do in Ballarat at 5 am in the morning than in Adelaide.... surprised Gibbs wasnt there...

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Dont give it the captaincy to Kouta let him concentrate on just playing a game as he is not the most inspirational Leader we have and if rested like Buckly playing 1/2 a game or rested from interstate

Agree with the Lance Indescretion best option is for Stevo for next 1-2 years until Murph can take the reigns

Murph is definately the next long term captain of the Blues when he is ready

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Either kouta or a rotating captaincy...including Bentick Walker T Bird Murph etc

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Rotating captain yer what a good idea .... you looking at getting hamil back to the Blues ..... and Kouta for Captain he has handed it in and he has been one of our greats ... all round nice guy but was one of our worst captains with lack of leadership on the field....

I think Stevo is a good choice should be better for the responsibility and has indicated he wants it.

The role is max 1-3 years as we have the best prospect waiting in the wings in Murphy so i can handle Stevo for 1-3 years basically until Murph is ready.

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Wolfe whats rotating captaincy got to do with Hamill ???
Why not look at Goodes and Barry Hall???

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There is one solution.

Let them drink in the Social Club bar only!

I didnt realise Goodes was one of the swans Captains

Thought Kirk and Hall shared the load and still dosnt make me agree that rotating the captaincy has worked ....

Walker i prefer to continue his developement see if he puts his hand up in the future

Bentick has not been a permanent member of the team hopefully he will more so this year.. Waite is another who needs to get consistancy in his own game

T-Bird .. no for captaincy not for his contractual dispute that was the clubs fault but thus far havnt seen him show himself to be someone who leads the younger players...thus far.

Stevo or Lance maybe Fev where the best fill in captains since Fev off field indescretions that pretty much rules him out .. and Whits recent indescretion prob has ruled him out.
That realy leaves Stevo to run for the next stint until Murph is ready ... or maybe a Simo or Walker will stand up over next couple of years

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Kouta?

Why force it on the undeserving and the ill-prepared?

Alternatively, Pagan as captain-coach.

Would be good to see them all booted from the leadership group (those that were in it). It would set a standard that stupidity is unacceptable. There might have been nothing in it, but if the Western Force can rub Scott Fava out for blowing 0.043 on a rest day, then we could follow their lead and make a stand. We are being mentioned in the same breath as Rugby League goons and that is the biggest crime of all.

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You really think a little thing like being out after late one night is going to rule Lance of out the captaincy. Don't think so. Not as if it's a huge crime. Pretty minor in the scheme of things. I'm happy to punt on him being captain when a decision is made. Alot of people (speaking generally) are so melodramatic to have such a minor indiscretion take up 12 pages. How many captains lately have made such indiscretions, whether as current captain, or before they were captains. Carey, Riccuto, Neitz, Cousins (bit more than minor and did lose the captaincy), Vandenburg, Voss (admittedly this year), Ricky Ponting. Whether Lance get the captaincy or not I don't think a late night is going to influence the decision. All the ridiculous melodrama is just that, ridiculous!

I think its more the timing of it Jim

The worst thing to do to impress the new Prez and after all the issues that the club has been facing in recent times.

Just dosnt look good being out at 5 am in the morning with some of the young new recruits at a pub and then to get caught up in an incident where one of the players may have assulted someone.

The timing just really bad when we have someone come into clean up the off field dramas that have ham strung the club for the last 3 years.

I was a big Lance advocate and still think he would be good .. also think Stevo would also be a good option .. at moment now Stevo would be leading to get the gig in my opionion

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Wolfe, It's all about youth now and the players that are coming through!
No need to look at the Kouta's Whitnall's Stevo's etc for captaincy their time is over!


We need to make the hard decisions and appoint a)Someone like Walker as Captain or b) Have rotating captains.

We have sweet f*ck all quality players with in 23-27 players and that they are captain material.

It's time to bite the bullet and do something!

As Synbad has said in the past it's time to move with the times and as we know football has changed.

We still have people with that same arrogant mentality of the past. Lets face it is time to move on and that time IS RIGHT NOW!

Coz if we dont we will be left behind once again and know one wants to see any of that shit we have seen for the past 5 years ever again!!!!



VOTE 1 FOR WALKER!

Well Achillies if we take that path the best option is to put Murphy up in the captains post he is streets ahead of all those mentioned i just think he needs an extra year or two

I look at it differently why give someone who is still developing or needs to get consistancy in the game and make that next step up.

I looked at Stevo or Whits not as a long term options more to groom one the best prosects in the club

If you look at it another way .. make Stevo Captian and then maybe walks / Murphy Vice ...

Waite no not on last 3 years has struggled to even play out a season
Bentick been in and out of the team
Walker - still maturing a wanting to learn more but ready to take the next step of his own game and by all indications will this year

Murphy is the best current prospect in the side but maybe 1-2 years away so why not put Stevo in to groom him for the future role..and add Murph to the leadership this year and VC next year

Anyway the way the club is looking it will be Stevo or Whits ... but hopefully they are only looking for them to assume the role until Murph is ready.

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We are stuck between a rock and a hard place Wolfe!
I see your point of view and there is pro's and con's as is my point of view aswell.

I still think Murph need another 2 years atleast before we even think of giving him the captaincy.

My perfect scenario would actually be a rotating captaincy system with the following name sin order of captaincy:
2007-Stevo/Whitnall (Joint) Just like Sydney did with Hall/Kirke and successfully won a premiership.
2008- Walker
2009- Murphy and if he is good enough give to him from there on in.


We need to move with the times and take some risks!

We need to be RUTHLESS, RELENTLESS and not look back!

The bottom line is that tWhitnall will win the captaincy hands down!
So whatever we say dont really matter right?