Yeah , replacing quality with quantity doesn't see to work .

Yeah , replacing quality with quantity doesn't see to work .

Yes but we got nothing from Charlie last year and from memory only about half a dozen good performances from Jack (until he got injured) and TDK (until he checked out).
So we really should have at least shown some improvement this year however seem to be getting worse.

See where you and Braithy are coming from Humps . I reckon we have picked up in the bottom six myself . They are doing OK . Reckon our top six are letting us down this year in that when its time to step up they for some reason do the opposite and step down . We lack star power IMHO .

well yes, it does work.

you need depth, as we saw with previous cfc teams. our bottom 6 are perennially among the league's worst 6.


our problem is our quality does no longer exist - cripps on the decline and withering is off sulking again. walsh post back op, is no longer elite. and our bottom six depsite bringing in solid foot soldiers this offseason, is the league's worst bottom 6.



thats why modern afl requires a system. pies, cats, swans have a system. a player knows his role, knows where to be and what to do at all times. the system moves as one across the ground.

at carlton, we have a bunch of mediocre individuals, who weren't coached into any particular system, and run around autonomously doing their own thing. and in the case of 2nd halves - not running around, but standing still, hoping their mate will do the heavy lifting.


is a clusterfkk, it really is

Agreed, Mick. I'm a broken record, but it's always whack-a-mole with this team. Improve our bottom six (note: Ainsworth Florent Hayward are not bottom six, they're middle six, but they push former middles down to the bottom) and now the top six go missing. Fix the transition smashing with two plodding rucks and we get smashed at centre clearance. Fix centre clearance (vs Aints) and we get smashed in transition.

Surrey i know you and others live in a parallel universe when it comes to reality.
When the list management committee decided to move on Kennedy Martin Marchbank Cunningham Owies and traded away two first round draft picks for Jagga and failed to not get Houston despite him nominating the club. The club went into full list rebuild. Players who had been through this for 8 to 10 years said stuff that and walked.
This year the reality has set in with Harry Weiters and Cripps and to a certain extent Cerra and Walsh.
Players want success they don't want to be cellar dwelling for their entire careers.

Austin and list management destroyed any chance of these players being successful.

We are now faced with another 8 to 10 years hoping we win in November and December in draft and trade period.

If you believe anything other than that you are delusional

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Can't argue with that braithy. I do question our top 6 'stars'???

System bred into the players. Its generational.

At Sydney Roos morphed into Longmire who morphed into Cox. Same system, with a few tweaks to adapt to personnel
At Geelong Premiership coach Thompson morphed into Premiership coach Scott whose been there for 15 years

Yeah continuity helps. We have made bad decisions and then blown the place up and started again too many times since Pagan.

Yes but whatever it is it is getting very hard to keep turning up and watching!