I wonder how many times we are going to hear this one!!!

He has said it many times already. DP why don't you get on board a decent coaching panel and do something about it!

You will hear every time we butcher the ball. Richmond and Calton butchered the ball.

Butcher, butcher,butcher, butcher .......

its all panning out the way I saw it.

There is a crisis, and a coach leaves in controversial circumstances.

There is new coach, a young man in his first year.

There is a revival of sorts, we run hot then cold and achieve a low spot in the final eight.

and then with a very young team, we surprise every one....

And the older coach is watching from the crowd, satisfied that the building blocks he put in place have reaped a reward that no one in their wildest dreams ever expected....

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no one would see that coming

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So what's this got to do with David Parkin then???

There is a sudden improvement during the season after the older coach departs. Im am not sure at all whether he departs in 2006. It could be in or towards the end of 2007.

Im not sure who this new coach is, but everyone thinks that the appointment is a non event and we will do no better that previously.

The best that can be said at the time of the appointment of the new man is that it is a team building year. He has an extremely young team to work with.

But we end up being in the right place at the right time with a very very young team.

After all the bad luck, there is a very large helping of good fortune.

The present circumstances are giving me pain, but I think that we still have one further unpleasent crisis to weather before we are out of the woods, although it wont look like we are out of the woods when we actually are...Likely that a 2006 wooden spoon will seal the fate of the old coach..

I think that we have some of the very young players that will be in that future team right now. a core of maybe 5 or 6 are playing in the seniors, maybe 5 or 6 more are learning their trade in the bullants and the rest of them havent been picked from the draft yet.

I feel that the old coach still has to put a number of building blocks into place before it is his time to depart.

Id say that there will be no players in this new future team that were from the 2000 - 2002 period and all of the 2004 foreign legion, or what is left of them will be gone, or perhaps in the bullants.

I dont know what role these players from 2000 - 2002 time are playing right now, but they dont feature at all in the future.

Sadly' I also think that Setanta O Hailpin is not in this new team.. I hope that this is incorrect.

There is a player running forward and kicking a goal in this new team. his name is 'Power' or maybe I was wrong and it is actually 'Bower'.

He kicks a goal running in from a flank, maybe it is an attacking defensive player doing this.

methinks that our eventual vanquished foe will be the saints on their last chance..

The rise of Carlton happens during the time of a very bad war that is going on in the world..

After our triumph, Carlton is as it has been for much of the time of its existance : thereabouts, and the blackest chapter in our history is over...

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When I saw you post in stuff I thought you were a nut, blueman. Now I understand you think you're a psychic?

My initial impression stands. Psychics prey on people's body language, and the general commoness of insecurities from one person to another, playing on percentages using a similar theory to card counters in casinos.

Think whatever you like.

I'm happy to write what I think is going to happen. I have good reason to think these things.

Anyway, I cant prey on anyones body language, because I cant see any of you. I have no desire to victimise, prey on or adversly affect anyone at all.

There is one thing that I will tell you though, there is more than the reality that you currently experience.

When certain things happen in life, they can either validate or refute a view you might have of the future.

To date, there has been an a lot of validation from my point of view of where Carltons plight is headed.

One thing I will note though, the dramas we are going through take longer to right themselves than I initially expected. Prior to 2002, I thought that we would only have one wooden spoon as this was all that was indicated at the time...

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If you're saying you think you're psychic, I find that pretty laughable.

If you're saying based on the catalogue of history that is human experience you are predicting this is what will happen, I call this speculation.

If you're referencing ancient text to highlight this occuring, I return to laughing. A psychic doesn't have to prey on a person's body language on an internet forum (ignoring that they can't), here you can see what they are thinking, pull resources based on that and push them to the extremes of such pathways.

Dont want to get off the topic of this thread too muc, but have a read of a little physics and cosmology and you will find that things are not as they might initially seem.

Ever read of some of the latest research and theories of what happens on death?

An individuals conscious self may not be what you think it actually is.

Have a look at this for example :

http://www.childpastlives.org/stevenson.htm

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So now you're calling me an atheist?

Research? Says there he shuns all media, you know the people who expose frauds, his research is only published in medical journals? I read Science, Life, New Scientist on a semi-regular basis. I'm afraid to inform you I've never seen this man's 'work'.

A failure to believe in reincarnation or super natural forces that intertwine human beings with things that have not occured yet does not make me ignorant, it makes me reasonable and a lot more objective about day to day life.

If such things are a possibility, science will eventually prove them. Until then such discussion without cold, hard fact can be considered placed in a position of faith.

I'm sure we could go on all day about this but just like the people of the middle east 2000 years ago, their people years before that and the basis of religions, people still needed to be shown something in order to believe (whether these events occured or not). I've said my piece.

jesus this site is weird sometimes!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

All I am doing is suggesting that there is more to things than what we experience in our narrow wavelength that we call 'reality'. Its actually not all that complex.

All I am doing here is telling what I have been told the best way that I can.

I never asked for or wished for insights into the fortunes of a football team, it just happened that way.

The thoughts dont actually come from myself, but they can be very powerful when they arrive.

Ive been having insights into Carltons fortunes for about 10 or 11 years now but I dont know why this is.

what I have found however is that most times when this happens, it tends to come out quite accurately. The 1995 premiership and the 1999 preliminary finals are rather poignant examples of this.

This doesnt extend to individual games much, just for things like the outcome of a particular season. Football is laden with complex overlays of variables, making it a fascinatingly complex thing to predict.

Im perfectly happy to talk about this as it seems to be a perfectly natural thing.

You should be happy that I have good news for the eventual fortunes of the club, although there seems to be some trouble ahead that needs to be worked through.

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I have a problem with people who can be vague and seemingly attempt to pump up people's tyres using vague descriptions that prey on an inherent psychology people possess that find links to the one-liners 'psychics' spout.

So now what you're trying to say is that most people are out of phase with this netherworld that you have contact with? That's actually a reasonably sound theory. It's perfectly possible given that atoms are mainly empty space and the fact that they are in phase with each other allows them not to pass through one another, but how can it allow for people to observe such things while not being in phase with them, such a person would have no concept of time and space as we know it and would not be able to function in the world as we know it.

Out goes that theory. Can we please halt the discussion there, I shouldn't really be dragging you down, you're just saying what you believe. Ignore me.

Also pushing back to that theory, imagine what would happen if such out of phase matter collided with in-phase matter at high speed, which could conceivable happen given how fast the earth travels, we'd be dead.

I march to the beat of a different drum than you do.

It will be no use for you trying to change it.

Im perfectly happy to let the future be the judge of what I have said.

You wait and see....

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Stick with it Blueman. I'm not sure what I believe, cant rationalise it all. I've heard some EVPs etc that put the absolute Heebie Jeebies right up me. Not just strange wierd noises that are easy to interpret, but actual answers to questions. I kind of beleive that there is much more out there than our fragile, conditioned minds are open to accept. What that something is i've no idea but I'm open to try and understand or beleive anything until proven wrong.

That said, when you are through with Carlton predictions, can you please PM me next week's powerball numbers!!!

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Actually there is a trick with the prediction stuff that most people are totally unaware of.

Most of the so called 'predictions' arent actually made by crystal ball gazing or 'out there' knowledge at all...

You need to understand that humans like us make the same dumb mistakes, the same stupid behaviours over and over and over again..

so when we talk about 'predictions', we are actually looking at past behaviours and the likelihood of people doing the same dumb arsed things yet again.

In most cases its odds on that they will make the same stupid mistake again...

Many times we look at the future, we are actually guided by what people have done in the past, this makes predicting things relatively easy.

That is except if you are like the majority these days - who have completely forgotten the lessons of history and are doomed to have to have yet another (sometimes painful) repeat lesson...it actually sometimes gets pretty boring seeing this you know...here we go again....same dumb descision....

As I have said consistently for some time now, Carlton comes good, during the time of a bad war. Its not all that far away I think....

The progress the club has made has been a series of initiatives that have had numerous setbacks and painful errors, but with a rather agonisingly slow movement forward overall.

Looking at other afl clubs and the way they move forward and taking our draft penalties into account and the development of players, Id say we are looking at a resurgence towards the end of this decade. Nothing all that heavy and spooky about this...

Changing tack for the minute, and looking at the war thing I have mentioned, the international situation at the moment - to a person like myself, who has a good understanding of the origins and progress of conflicts between nations based on a good understanding of history, I can see quite plainly that we are indeed headed towards major conflict soon.

Its just so pathetically tragic that others are unable to also see this, and more importantly, the things that a nation needs to do to ensure that it is protected from this terrible thing when it comes.. (this may well mean NOT getting involved in a war based on resources and instead doing other things)...

Cross out Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan and instead insert fundamentalist Middle Eastern governments that have Oil we depend on as well as a handful of nukes....

Add a pretty much totally asleep apathetic and unaware West / Overdependancy on Oil & Oil supply vulnerability / tendency of fundamentalist Islamic countries to use medieval warfare tactics - and there you have it.. Starve the city by beseiging it at the walls, wait until it has weakened, and then march in..

Dont get me wrong, the majority, probably vast majority of Islamic people are fine, no problems, but like has happened before in other parallel situations in other times, corrupt leaders (some of whom arent in power just at the moment) will manipulate and use religion in order to cause conflict.

The West is actually doing a great job of self destruction here by being incredibly stupid..

Unfortunately, and regrettably, most people today live in a cocooned politically correct world and they have totally totally forgotten the lessons of the past or else they never had any knowledge at all of what happened in the 20th century much at all. This also includes many politicians..

As there has been in the past, there are people out there that dont like us for whatever reason. If they find an advantage, a way of possibly subduing us, they wont sit back and behave like pollyanna, they will do whatever they want to do in order to achieve their particular world view irrespective of the hurt and harm they might cause in the meantime.....

Past events are very much a guide to the future.

Also the media and the flood of information available to us now is actually in some ways our worst enemny and will trap us into looking at the wrong things.

We live in a time when the media is mainly directed towrds feeding us populist drivel, doesnt want to scare the horses and dish up anything too provocoative and floods us with masses and masses of useless information.

They have pretty much abrogated any role they might have had to lead by providing information that helps broader future purposes and instead the media goes for the easy targets, lowest common denominator stuff..

The real things that we need to know, that might actually help us long term are never mentioned, until it of course, it is way too late...

I never cease to be amazed at how little people understand this, but I just give up and assume that they enjoy living in ignorance...

But to many people at the moment, the idea of certain interactions between countries causing a war may as well be something written in the ancient swahili language. It means nothing to them...

People just need to wake up.....

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I see it now...

the Govt.brings back conscription and players like Judd, Riewoldt,Halland teh like get sent to battle and we (with our list-do not get asked to go to war) take the flag in the midst of the 'Oil Wars'.

Kouta-then 39- will hoist up #17 with Lance as coach.

Seriously though...not good to hear your 'visionon the war front' noron the doom to come for the Blues. But let's hope that it's sooner rather than later. Resrgence I mean.

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The tide is turning

If you guys wanna hear and listen to some freaky stuff and some great radio check out. I listen to this every morning at 3am some of it is obviously crap but interesting none the less.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

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Can smell the gf its there for the taking we are the form side

The 'out there' stuff actually isnt that feaky, its just that we dont understand how we are as people and that we are also scared of things that we dont know much about...

You wont ever get any scary stuff from me, only stuff to assist and help...Mind you, the comments below might be a bit unsettling..


Ive often wondered whether Carlton comes good during a time when the US attacks Iran with their big nuclear bunker buster bombs. The US would have to use this type of weapon if it is to destroy the deep concrete underground bunkers in which the Iranian nuclear facilities are.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3016 - see this link.

There is 10 or 20 metres of concrete beneath a lot of sand that has to be drilled through by this new type of US laser guided bomb. When it gets to where it needs to go, it explodes in a nuclear fireball.

There is a lot of radioactive dust and debris that spreads everywhere, a huge hole and a destroyed nuclear facility...

This is an actual military plan that America has right now, whether they carry it out is another question. It would certainly be a big conflict of the type I was thinking about.

Such a thing would be very very provocative and cause big and quite dangerous divisions between the major nations in the world...The USA thinks that the Iranian leader right now is an Islamic Hitler. Donald Rumsfeld the US secretary of defense has said as much...



I was really upset when I first found out about our imminent decline, which was in 2001, while we were still in the finals.It seemed like a really really horrible thing to contemplate at the time.

I didnt even believe it myself, untill 2002 when it all started happening. It was like a re run of a horrible and painful nightmare for me..

I was comforted by the thought that we would get better. The only thing that is hard for me is that it has taken so long. But thinking about it, it is to be expected.

Its still very very hard for me to come to terms with our club being the way it is. But I take solace from an Essendon* supporter friend, who tells me not to worry because the worst is over and we have started on the road back to where we belong. He actually wants us to be back at the top as well.

My friend also thinks that Pagan will move on soon.

From my viewpoint, we do get better, but it is a fairly slow and agonising process. Theres more pain to come, but not as bad as we have gone through.

The prospect of another bottom 4 finish is a very unpleasant one for me, it is like a long nightmare that doesnt end, but it eventually will.

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