This one???....
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16195094%255E36035,00.html

All the players that have so called injuries, tarrant, Fraser, rocca and now they are resting Didak. I bet you 100% if they were in finals contention they will play. Next thing you know Caracella will be listed as injured from last weeks game. They are being so obvious. I cannot see how they can beat us. We are going to get sucked in to winning. I can see it. For all those who are going to get excited if we win, dont because it will only be because of their tanking. In the end they will call us suckers and they will of go their wish.

This game will be a farce and the AFL are totally to blame for creating all a game which will benefit both teams loosing.
The game against the Kangas was obvious to the fact that the Pies would have been happier loosing playing 6 first gamers / Resting more Key players ... Moves like cloke into the ruck in the last part of the game ..
I reckon the game against the BLues will have 10 1st year players with most of the seniors opting for LTI

Now people are suggesting that to beat the pies will make them happy well i know that if we beat the pies it will make them happy as they will retain there PP and only have to engineer 2 more losses. In our case we win and we sudly loose the best picks and put ourselves in danger of loosing the PP all together if we are stupid enough to chase a cheap win that the opposition wants us to give them a loss

So I am now more pro loosing or drawing this match to teach those maggots a lesson that way the Pies loose there PP we still retain our number #1 pick and at this stage 3rd. Will be good come draft time Pick 1 Blues / Pick 2 Hawks / Pick 3 Blues / Pick 4 Hawks / Pick 5 Pies

That will be something that will upset the Pies more come draft day than us getting a cheap win over a team that wants to loose and will only make them ultimately happy.

I reckon after this year that the AFL will have no choice but to change the draft ... And if people still dont think this is the case ... Look at the betting ajencies which arnt even interest in backing this match

so Didak faked the heart thingy?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Good points Wolfe. Some bookmakers and betting agencies are refusing to bet on this match, apparently they are suspicious of Collingwood after last week's clutching of defeat from the hands of victory.

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All i am saying Dannyboy i opened the sun today looked at the injuries page and both the Hawks and Pies Season ending injury column looked like a 3rd of the team in both cases. Sees like a season ending injury is occuring to both teams on a daily basis wouldnt be surpirsed to see the Boxhill hawks and Williamstown on the field by the last game lol

To all those feeling guilty about wanting the Pie's to beat us i suggest you dont.I know a heap of Pie's fan's and to a man they are hoping like hell they get done.
Pies hoping for the Blues to win and Blues hoping for the Pies to win.
How weird is that ?
Come on guys,dont be complete fools.We have to chuck this game just to shove it up Eddie and The Cypriot M............A.!

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There is a special Tanking virus inflicting half the Pies list only happens at season end and affects teams sitting on 5 wins worried about wining another game. This may inflict the whole list by season end..... Geez at least we hide our tanking dont need to so openly display it

Hearing Eddie last nite was asked are you trying to loose games ....Answer Its carlton we dont worry about anything but to beat the Blues ...But we will make sure we do it with Williamstown 2nds lol

IIRC we did lose to Hawthorn...when they didn't have Crawford or Mitchell, we can definately lose this game...I actually think that we will lose because we are a worse team than they are, they have a decent backline, it's their forwards that have been injured (Tarrant, Didak, Rocca), we have THE WORST defence in the league, Under 10's could score against us...It will come down to the midfield...If they win enough ball to supply their limited forwards, they will win because we have an awful defence...I just hope that guys like Stevo, Kouta and Scotland realise how important this game is and do what is necessary

Sitting at the MCG last sunday, looking up at the scoreboard and seeing scores level at the 31st minute mark of the Nth/Coll game I was hoping for the (distant) siren. The pies miss out on the PP and they do it without the glory of a win! Unfortunately it wasn't to be.

Hope we smash them.

If we play like we've been playing we'll win easily.

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Yep i guess you would enjoy a team Blues2005 that would be happy if we beat them ... so in effect you want to make the Pies happy in helping them keep pick 3 and 6 when clearly if they loose thoose picks they will be unhappy
I always look at the Pies what ever result makes the Pies more unhappy is a win for us. This maybe the only time this situation will happen and next year i will enjoy Smashing the Pies when the game isnt a farce an beating them actually is beating them.

I'm kinda going to pretend the match isn't on, and hope we've lost by sunday arvo........

horrible, horrible system

besides, I'd rather beat Essendon*.

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Yep i agree Tyrant the tanking for Picks has probably been active for 5-6 years when clubs realised that getting the Bonus pick and PP would greatly assist the club in the following year.. Last year the Bulldogs / Hawks / Tigers all did it to perfection but with all sides having coaching changes wasnt so abvious as you could blame the coaches for the losses.

This year though it is becoming too obvious with team fadeouts in the second halfs... players getting increasing injuries ... (Hawks + Pies )
Players being rested early. I know the Pies missed out last year to get the benefits i reckon Eddie in his restructure has penciled in to Mick .. Get those Picks 3+6 and if Hawks or Blues are stupid maybe we can get picks 1 and 2 lol

Ha ha just heard on the Radio .. Didak cleared to play ... but best rest for the next fortnite just to be safe lol geez they really wanna tank so badly do the Pies.... I just hope we upset there Tanking plans

IF maggies loose they will look like they are tankin too (which they already appear to be). Frankly any player that requires a surgery at years end lets get it down now. Why shouldnt we rest them, let them have their ops and LTI them? Most importantly this would allow our players to have a full preseason.

How pathetic have we been all season??? The baggers would be even more pathetic if we gave up signing the best uncontracted player. Realistically a draw or a loss are the only win options we have.A draw I would be happy with!!! Wobbles would be out of contention then for PP and uncontracted player and we would retain both.

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Can smell the gf its there for the taking we are the form side

Anybody who bothered to watch last Sundays game would see those Collingwood boys don't have it in them to tank even if they were ordered to. It's an insult to a very classy North team to suggest we let them win. We fought out hearts out to the last second.

And to suggest our injuries aren't genuine (did someone mention Rocca??? FFS, he's been out most of the year. Were we tanking way back then? ) is an insult the professionalism of the Collingwood Football Club. You all like to bag Ed for any little thing he does, do you really believe a man of such ego would allow his club to lie down and lose?

We will win this week. We'll win because we're better than you. And it won't be because you're tanking, as I'm sure you (or most of you) will celebrate you did.

Stuff who finishes where. Stuff PP's. This is Collingwood v Carlton. This is a game, as all games are between our 2 great clubs, of pride and of rivalry.

Anyone here who wants your own team to lose should piss off and don't bother coming. We'll see you back here in a few years time when you're back on the bandwagon of a successful team and basking in your fair-weathered glory.

To the rest of you supporters out there who will be there cheering your team on no matter what and hoping for that amazing feeling of beating the Pies, good luck, and may the best team win!

GO PIES!!!!

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Mandy is right Collingwood didn't tank, they just got the wobbles like they have for years. We're gonna give Collingwood the beat down they deserve on Saturday night.

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Mandy both Collingwood and Carlton have more holes in them than swiss cheese. I am a advocate of losing to win because there is only one way to fill the holes that are in both teams.

However realistically how do u get 22 players to tank? In Carltons case we have at least 5 players playing for their football futures and loosing and playing poorly does not guarantee them a pay check next year. Likewise a coach no matter how long the actual contract is has his performance weighted on his last game/season.

To state that any person is a fairweather supporter or jumping on a bandwagon im sorry is just plain rubbish. In my lil case I purchase my wifes and my membership from the USA knowing full well that I will not see any games or have any fringe benefits for doing so.

A disagreement on motives and percieved motives does not label any person as a fairweather supporter. I would be a fairweather supporter if purchasing a membership was a direct reflection of Carltons ladder postion and it isnt. Those of us who see a poor future and are advocates of tanking should be referred to as realists who want Carlton or in your case Collingwood to be in its rightful position.

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Can smell the gf its there for the taking we are the form side

No, the way I see it, wanting your team to lose is a cop out. It's like everyone here (and the Pies boards as well) are pinning their hopes on some fantasy that getting the PP's will somehow pull them out of the dire straits they have found themselves in right now. Is that realistic??

Will a few picks, a couple of (maybe) future champions really be the magic potion? I don't think so. Who here can honestly say you would be in a much higher ladder position right now if you had Riewoldt and Kosi in your team. It takes TEAMS to win. Not a few players. I remember how excited you all got over Stevens. How did that turn out for you?

Supporters of these teams need to pull their heads out of the clouds, stop believing the PP's will save them, and concentrate on supporting their teams.

I HATE this tanking talk with a passion. And to be honest, I do understand where you're coming from, but I just can't agree. I don't have it in me to go to the football and want my team to lose. I wouldn't even know how.

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My veiw is this game is just a farce and i hope this season makes the AFL make changes this is not just about the Blues or the pies its for a lot of teams that are put in this ludicrous position at season end ... If the AFL had announced at round 18 or something the teams now line up hopw they are for this years draft for picks.... you would have seen very different results in the past few matches. I am saying this about the Hawks as well.
All i hope is that next year the draft is changed and restructured get the lottery system in place and we will eliminate any uncertainty that teams are tanking